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890, RE: Jesus is Not Jehovah the Almighty
Posted by osoclasi, Fri May-28-04 04:31 PM
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>Reply4: If God wants to have another capable of doing it,
>absolutely!

Response: It is impossible for God to create himself, that is not a good answer.
>Reply4: It is working perfectly against you... unless you
>want to drop the claim that John 1:1c should not be
>translated indefinitely.

Response: Actually it is not working well against me at all, for I have proven that JOhn 1:1 is not inceptive, but a normal imperfect therefore teh qualitative use is more accurate.
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>Reply4: Oh, so Ehud is a savior now. Changing our story
>are we? Now you have no choice but to accept my position
>of Isaiah here being contextually limited.. unless of course
>you want to go back and change your position AGAIN and say
>Ehud is not a savior.

Response: No not at all, for even though God is comparing himself to idols, it is a true statement non the less, he is the only saviour, Ehud is limited by context. Meaning they may have regarded him as a saviour, but ultimately he was a vehicle.
>Reply4: Angels are spirits.. God is a spirit.. Hmmm.
>Sounds like a similar nature to me.

Respnse: Angels are not omniscente, omnipresent etc, hmmm sounds differetn to me, there is no way to escape this one.
>>Reply4: So God, the Almighty, with unlimited power, can't
>copy these things? I think not, for Hebrews 1:3 says he
>did!

Response: No Hebrews does not say that, and no God cannot create himself, or a being like him, that is insane.
>>Reply4: He says it TO David though... Just as Thomas says
>something TO Jesus.. Doesn't mean its about Jesus.

Response: mou is there in JOhn 20:28 my God, my Lord. Not so in Samuel.
>>Reply4: Except Professor Robertson fails to point out that
>Rev. 4:11 is a HUGE textual varient. The rendering found in
>the provided translation (NASB) is based on the 5th century
>Codex Alexandrinus. We note, however, that the 4th century
>Codex Sinaiticus does not support this rendering, in
>agreement with more than 60 manuscripts with KURIE rendering
>in this verse, including the Textus Receptus. These
>renderings are consistent with what is found throughout
>Revelation.

Respnse; Personally I don't think the TR is any good. But I think you JW's like it right? And since you said there were only 60 manuscripts does that mean the rest used the nominative?

>>Reply4: He began being. Nobody can BE for me, I can only
>BE myself. I was created and I started eimi'ing.

Response: It does not say he was created and started eimin-ing you are adding words to the text.
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>>>Regards,
>>>Tony