There is no paragon of morality more supreme than God. You say that such a life is possible aside from God, but this is the same mentality as all of those in society who buy the records and live the lifesyles portrayed and glorified in the music. Their parents thought morality was possible aside from God, so they stopped instilling a belief and fear of God in their children...From that point in time, our society has gone down hill, falling away from virtue. We are probably one of the most Godless generations in American History...all becasue we thought we knew better than God--who created us, in fact. I respect your opinion, but in my opinion there really is no room for compromise on such a topic...Like that old cliche goes, give an inch and they take a mile.

-Otto