>Paul? i wont comment too much on him....but i dont consider
>him an apostle....in fact the exact opposite....

hmm...now that's interesting.
elaborate if you like...you can't insult me. ha.



>>i guess my question is, what came first? the exclusively
>male
>>god, or the culture that spawned him.
>
>different and places the knowledge of the Divine manifested in
>different ways, mostly according to the understanding of the
>societies.....but the twisting of that for agendas is human
>maniplation....

true. that's my thought as well.
i guess my question has always been when did that domination have to mean male trumps female?

'cause it's obvious that wasn't always the case. i used to think it was just eastern/african, then i started learning about the western earth-based religions that also incorporated elements of the divine feminine on equal standing with male counterparts.

it seems that, usually, the difference has been agricultural vs. technological/industrial societies. the more "science" takes over, the more "male" god becomes.


>word. its ok to break down the Divine, which is beyond
>encapsulating comprehension, into understandable concepts, but
>we have to be careful not to project those concepts back up,
>or to let certain concepts dominate over others...

most def.





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