>now, i'm usually pretty quiet around here 'cuz i'm *supposed*
>to be getting work done & don't always have time to keep up
>with the convos. today, however, i feel the need to speak up
>a little..
>
>lemme preface by saying, i feel like everyone has a valid
>p.o.v., but i think that folks aren't considering everything
>that has been said. (which is to be understood, 'cuz there's
>a lot of wordage goin' on...) so i just want to point out a
>couple things...
>
>Airbreed, you said:
>>so its easy for anyone to blow it off as 'humor'... when
>they
>>themselves cant possible imagine what someone actually
>>experiences w/ the police Vs. someone who manifests
>>'perspectives' of these experiences.
>
>*but* i don't think you & buttersoul thought about what eb
>said:
>>I am a charecter , as i am in most of my songs.
>>i am a writter who enjoys telling a story from all sorts of
>>perspectives....
>>these are real sittuations from my perspective .
>>its important to me to give it to ya'll like that.
>>one thing i find uncomfortable is being misunderstood.
>>but thats life. lol.
>
>i take this as her artist's license to present what she sees
>in a way that works for her.

which is the main arguemnt here. she does what works for HER. but at WHO'S expense?

the expense of those who are directly impacted by these kinds of things?

the expense of those who have family/loved ones oppressed by the ameriKKKan judicial system?

the expense of making money off the boho crowd who talk revolution but dont' know the first thing about what the 'revolution is about?

artist: we here for the revolution!

crowd: yeah!

artist: a revolution for freedom!!

crowd: yeah!

what the fuck? ...does anyone know what that means??

she's made herself clear to me that shes an entertainer. and that's cool. her coin phrases such as "revolution" worked and were bought and sold by pseudo-pro black boho's who wear che guevarra t-shirts but don't know shit about the motorcycle diaries.

but aside from that....

okay.

...so since she has license to say things that 'emphathizes', people also have license to criticize her message and disminate that from the truths of REAL situations that people go through.

for some... its insulting to feel like your just a name or a face in someone's song when your experiences are exploited by those who've never had to deal with the pain of seeing your kin behind bars or, have your child beaten by indivuiduals who are supposed to 'protect' you. and neither you nor i can sit a judge whether if these people should feel the way they do if we've never gone though thier pain.

its also arrogant to assume that people who have REAL experiences with these atrocities... are simple enough to be written into a hook for the next big r&b song.

granted, she may be "manifesting
>her perspective" on the situation, but isn't that part of what
>this artistry is all about?

sure it is. but these artists also need to be prepared to be challenged by those who live 'that shit' everyday of their lives... and aren't penning imaginary stories from what they 'think' they hear and see around them.

this is what happens when these 'artists' try to play the game.


on a broad scale, how is eb's
>whole saga any different from "the message" by grandmaster
>flash & 'nem? i just see two artists using different methods
>of describing what they see going on around them? a person
>doesn't actually have to experience something to feel empathy
>for those who do.

maybe so. but like i said... people who talk 'that talk', need to be mindful of the consequences of thier rhetoric. and if they cant stand thier ground with some useful converstaion and build from that ...then what the fuck are they really saying?

and to turn it into some humorous shit makes thier whole game no different from the ignorant shit currently being pimped and explioted on minorities.