>Get out of here. You
>can not be serious.
>Please list these so called effective
>processes, and you're understanding of
>penal history.

It all goes back to rehabilitation. Changing the situation, thought process or outlook of individuals. I refuse to beleive that imprisonment (as it exists today in America)is the most effective form of rehabilitation.

>>in theory yes. the realities
>>of prison however are far
>>from what they "should" be.
>> What other alternative is
>>presented tho? I'm not
>>saying that i beleive you
>>shouldn't be punished if you
>>do wrong...
>
>Are you sure?

I may have a disdain for the penal system as it exists today but as i've said before I know there is a need for one. I'm not for anarchy nor am I an advocate of violence or people breaking laws deliberately.

>So what is your argument with
>me. I haven't for
>one second diverged from what
>you have said above.

No argument, but when i agree/disagree with someone I am interested in what they have to say and their reasoning behind it.

>>and as for natural law...i'm referring
>>to the natural law of
>>God.
>
>That argument doesn't hold water with
>me in this debate.

that's another debate all together and I am not the one hold it with. I was merely trying to look at it from a moral standpoint.

>There is little debate in the
>Bible over what God's law
>is. It's completely one
>sided from God's point of
>view. No one makes
>a good case for going
>against his laws. Everyone
>who opts out of his
>plan is damned to hell.

Yes your right, and even though I feel as though the Bible is plagued with inconsistancies and errors that came via man...some of it's basic principals I do live by.

>If I control the rules of
>the game, I can always
>win.
True. I guess I just don't mind playing.

You can debate with me anytime. I like intelligent brothas who know where they stand.

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