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13208, Biased?
Posted by osoclasi, Sun Jun-24-01 08:31 AM
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>Actually, many people do think they
>are reflected in his teachings
>in the Gospels...most Christians won't
>accept it, but much of
>what Christ said was not
>new...what I mean is, it
>may have been new to
>his people, but much of
>what he said had also
>been said in other parts
>of the world by other
>people...but then I no you
>will not accept this, even
>though it is documented (just
>as Jesus's life and teachings
>are).
>

Responce: There have been many sayings of Christ that are very similar to those of the rest of the world, but what I was saying is that the teachings of those religions have no bearing on what he said in the gospels. Actually, the way Jesus taught salvation is new and very unique a concept foriegn to other religions.

>Actually, he is extremely similar to
>many people from other systems...for
>example, since I used Krishna
>before, I will use him
>again: Both were of
>a virgin birth, both their
>names mean the same thing
>(Christ comes from the Greek
>Cristos, and the word Krishna
>in Greek means the same
>as cristos. Christ in
>Sanskrit is Krista, and has
>the same meaning as Krishna),
>both were considered the son
>of God, both's coming were
>foretold, both were born in
>unusual places, Christ was a
>shepherd, Krishna was a cowherd,
>both's teachings emphasised love and
>peace, etc, etc....but that's been
>posted here already...I know we
>were initially talking about Christ's
>teachings, but you were wrong
>about what you've just posted
>above.

Responce: I'll grant you some of these similarities but others I will challege you on. The virgin birth I kind of take your side but may I ask was Krishna's prophesied 700 years before his birth (Isiah 7:14)? Also was his place of birth prophesised like Jesus was(Micah 5:2), how bout his ancestory (Gen 12:2-3;cf 22:18)? How about what tribe he will come from (Gen 49:10)? They might have taught love,peace etc, but Christ talked about the coming of hell, when he will return, he's own resurrection, and the destruction of Jeruselem. Did any of Krishna prophesies come true? Did Krishna come to die for our sins and restore out union with God? I'm curious how do you explain 119 prophesis that were all fufilled by one human? Also the whole issue about Christ name, that's no big deal. The term messiah"the lords anoited" is a hebrew word "masiah" usually refers to kings, who were " the Lord's anointed"(1 Sam 24:6). It was even given to Cyrus in the book of Isiah. But by the time of the New Testament it meant something different the Messiah was God's chosen instrument who would come one day to establish God's kingdom and to rule in power thats who Jesus was.
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>
>I do not know your point
>of saying this? Are
>you trying to show me
>that you know the Gita?

Responce: You brought up the similarities, I'm showing you the differences.

> Are you trying to
>show the differences between Christianity
>and Hinduism?

Responce: Bingo

I never
>said that Christ was necessarily
>teaching what Krishna taught word
>for word...I was just saying
>he may have been INFLUENCED
>by him.
>
>Are you sure? That may
>your perception do to your
>Christian bias. Krishna is
>only a temporary incarnation?? Depending
>on what sect you speak
>to, you may get varying
>answers to this. Incarnation
>of a panthesistic God??

Responce: Actually I'm quite sure, oh yeah thanks for calling me bias( I'm glad we don't have to resort to name calling on this site). Do you know what I mean by temporary incarnation and panthesistic?