>I am an apologetic.

you should understand when you're (potentially) being baited.

no disrespect. but when one has decided that you're wrong, and it doesn't matter WHAT you say, then at what point does your understanding of doctrine and your ability to relate it do any good beyond the sake of discussion?

remember the "knock at the door"? if someones heart/mind is set against opening it (and am i in no way implying this is the specific case) then no amount of "apology" is going to sway them. right?

and this is not said to preclude the discussion nor to retard the debates, but fundamentally, one should not lose sight of the goal -- which is to answer honest question and not to do the "intellectual" dance.

by all means...continue.