and the world is mad...

get these nuts Laker Haters

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Not having to take back any bad contracts+not giving up Pau makes this a major win.

any shitty contracts back?

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trusting ol' Yeller

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and I wanted to keep bynum.

These niggas said fuck a big 3 and created a big 4.
Still no excuses for Durant btw.

Sixers never thought they'd get Bynum, bynum and jason richardson for iggy, harkless, vucevic and a #1
guess it depends on if bynum reups
broussard is already saying the sixers are #2 in the east now bwhahahaha

>These niggas said fuck a big 3 and created a big 4.
>Still no excuses for Durant btw.

Denver is going to be tough in the west too, Iggy is a major upgrade over Afflalo

if howard's back gives him problems early on
bynum should get a lot better getting a steady amount of shots down low from turner and jrue
they got rid of elton brand too....
bynum will get ALL THE SHOTS HE WANTS
25 and 10 might fuck around and be a bad night for bynum next season.....

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>Still no excuses for Durant btw.

plus perk can guard howard 1 on 1
he better get that rematch vs bron or i'm clowning

I doubt they'll need any tho

the Lakers team is way better then OKC, Durant was fine in the finals but his supporting cast got exposed as a bunch of overrated inconsistent role players outside of Russy

> but his supporting cast got exposed as a bunch of
>overrated inconsistent role players outside of Russy

have the last word. i'm not about to have a back and forth on whether the thunder are a title contending team or not......OOO

it's really simple as that

has to be

I like it though.

Not a big fan of Bynum, I think he's immature and lacks motivation, but I'll take this deal all day long.

Unlike a lot of Philly fans, I like Andre Iguodala, but this is a move we had to make. I'm happy. Shit, I'm thrilled.

But I still don't really care for Bynum, and I have a few reservations about him, but fuck it. This is a HUGE W for Philly.

I'm not completely familiar with their current cap situation, but they'd *have* to ditch Pau to sign him for a worthy extension, yeah?

>I'm not completely familiar with their current cap situation,
>but they'd *have* to ditch Pau to sign him for a worthy
>extension, yeah?

makes the most sense for him to hit free agency and sign a max deal with the lakers. they can offer him aprox $25 mil more than the next team via bird rights.

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I'd be nervous about having to pay Bynum max money at the end of this year.

Still, a good move for Philly.

other than the lakers they're the only ones i like the deal for...they can be middling team forever rolling through dudes like that.

hopefully iggy doesn't sit in denver forever and gets on a squad with a star in the next few though.

But, shit, Afflalo and Harrington and a pick for Iggy is a no brainer for them. They could easily turn around and move Iggy at the trade deadline or before the season.

They got fucked so bad that Billy King is drunk somewhere in Brooklyn right now with a wig on trying to keep an eye out for Russin Mob HItmen.

That dude is gonna be seeing an 'Eastern Promises' scene in his mind just trying to take a shower in his own home tomorrow.

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>I'd be nervous about having to pay Bynum max money at the end
>of this year.
>
>Still, a good move for Philly.

This is perfect, give Bynum a yearlong tryout as The Man, when he beasts pay him more & he's staying.

If he flops (don't see it) you just cleared a bunch of money taking a shot at your first offensive presence at center since Moses Malone.

DEAL.

this is really a no lose situation for Philly, even in a worst case scenario where Bynum busts or walks.

Best move Philly's made since drafting GOAT

he can be while being given the heavy lifting (40 miles from where he was born & raised) then he's staying and taking that extra damn year plus extra money.

If he flames out we've got another 20 or so million to play with the following season or can flip him on a more desperate team.

In the meantime we get to put our young guys in their natural slots and see what we've really got.

Both Thad & Turner have both been noticeably better when Iggy isn't there, let's see how that grades out over a full season with Bynum getting fed in the post like he's wanted to for awhile now.

We literally have been down so long that it looks like up to us, however right now we legitimately have a shot to turn the corner in a meaningful way.

This is a CAN'T LOSE proposition, thanks Orlando!

and it's exactly what I've been saying they needed to do.

Trade Iggy for a young star or cap room/draft picks, amnesty Brand, make room for Evan and Jrue to take over, and save money for a second star in 2014.

This is fucking PERFECT. I'm not a huge fan of Bynum, but he's still young and he gets what he wants, he's the go-to guy, so the chances of this working out are good. And if it doesn't, fuck it, we're no worse off.

I'm ecstatic.

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Report: 4-team trade to send Dwight Howard to Lakers is 'complete'?

By Ben Golliver | NBA Blogger
August 9, 2012 10:48 pm ET

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Dwight Howard is reportedly heading to the Lakers. (Getty Images)

Are the Los Angeles Lakers about to win the summer of 2012 in spectacular fashion?

ESPN.com reported on Thursday evening that a 4-team trade involving the Orlando Magic, Los Angeles Lakers, Philadelphia 76ers and Denver Nuggets that would send Dwight Howard to the Lakers is "complete."

A source with direct knowledge of the talks told ESPN.com's Marc Stein the Lakers will receive Howard, the Denver Nuggets will acquire Andre Iguodala, the 76ers will receive Andrew Bynum and Jason Richardson, and the Magic will get Arron Afflalo, Al Harrington, Nikola Vucevic and one protected future first-round pick from each of the other three teams. In addition, the Magic will be getting other pieces, including 76ers No. 1 draft pick Moe Harkless, a source told Stein.

Acquiring Howard without giving up Pau Gasol would be a major coup for the Lakers, who earlier acquired point guard Steve Nash from the Phoenix Suns without sacrificing any major pieces of their 2011-12 team, which was eliminated in the second round of the Western Conference playoffs by the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Also Thursday evening, ESPN.com reported that a phone call with the NBA league office to "process" the deal had been scheduled for Friday morning and that Howard would not be agreeing to an extension with the Lakers as part of the deal, making him eligible for free agency next summer. Shortly thereafter, the Philadelphia Daily News confirmed the trade's details, noting that it could be completed as early as Friday morning.

Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reported on Thursday evening that the 4-team trade talks were "progressing" and that there was "guarded optimism" that the complicated "could be consummated," although the complicated, multi-team framework and past history of trade scenarios collapsing meant that this remains an exercise in caution. Berger also confirmed that Bynum would be sent to the 76ers in the "most likely scenario" and reported that Lakers Gasol would not be headed to the Magic.

Earlier Thursday, Yahoo Sports reported that the 4-way talks had opened but that a deal was " imminent."

Howard publicly requested a trade last season and even gave a list of preferred destinations to Magic management. He later underwent season-ending back surgery that forced him to miss the playoffs and Orlando opted to fire coach Stan Van Gundy and part ways with GM Otis Smith. In their place, the Magic hired Jacque Vaughn and Rob Hennigan.

Howard, 26, is a 6-time All-Star, 3-time Defensive Player of the Year, 5-time All-NBA first-team selection and 4-time All-Defensive first-team selection. He averaged 20.6 points, 14.5 rebounds, 2.1 blocks, 1.9 assists, 1.5 steals and shot 57.3 percent from the field in 54 games last season.


Good job Lakers...keeping Pau was the key. I don't know who did better between Kupchak, Ainge, or Riley in the off-season

What a fucking awful deal for the Magic. This is unbelievable.

Afflalo, Harkless, and picks? How could they not have gone with Houston's offer? It had to be better than that. Especially since they only got rid of Richardson and not any of their worse contracts.

Can't wait for "basketball reasons" to rear its ugly head.

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Stop Movin, Shot Bruise Him-AY! AY! AY! AY!

Fuck it, go big on everybody. Start the line up with:
Holiday, N.Young, T.Young, Kwame, Bynum

Off the Bench:
Turner, Richardson, Dorell Wright, Lavoy and Hawes

I think that's a pretty strong line-up. They probably wont be a top 3 team but at least they wont be a perennial 8th seed.

Honestly, I don't even really want him on the team at all.

Evan has to start, Sixers need to find out if he & Jrue can be the backcourt of the future.

he's a good defensive Center but I'm fairly positive based on what I remember of him (and I honestly really like him for what I think he is, leaving the Lakers was really good for him) that you wouldn't want him roaming the perimeter with all these jump shooting PFs the league has these days.



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Bynum
Hawes
lavoy allen
kwame
the rookie is a PF i guess but still

not sure what it means if the elite teams do that small ball shit
but those kind of match up problems should be enough to body most of the middle of the road and below type teams

lavoy gets pf time with nikola/brand gone and thad playing more sf. kwame comes off the bench regardless.

this is the appropriate amount of depth.

FUCK ALL YALL

BYE BYNUM

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wtf are they doing?

horrible

This dude had so many options... this deal is so pathetic that you may as well just wait for free agency and torture him all year and let him walk...

The Nets deal shits on this... even for those who say Lopez isnt worth his deal, you could hold onto Lopez as a valuable asset and flip him at the deadline for something nice, plus have Brooks and the picks from Nets and more cap relief!!! Not to mention, if Lopez is averaging 20 and 8 on a playoff team next year, which he will if healthy, this guy is going to look even worse... every one of us in this thread should be mad right now that this dude somehow is an NBA gm and we are posting on okp. Lopez at least nets a nice young player and a first at the deadline this year, no doubt. so that's Brooks, plus 4 firsts, plus another good young player plus more cap relief. Or a 20 point 24 year old center and lopez and more cap relief and better picks.

Rod Thorn has pulled some sweet deals, this may top them all, iggy for bynum? wow, awesome fucking deal

Denver, I get it, Iggy upgrade over Afflalo but the Lakers were aging and declining, you almost took them out last year, why help this deal go down? Isn't the goal to ultimately win a title?

Lakers, I mean, ultimately they give up Bynum for Dwight Howard off back surgery and Dwight Howard not agreeing to extend yet, absolutely worth the risk. Even tho Im mad that the lakers get Howard, giving up Bynum is a fair trade off... Even tho, the Lakers give up ZERO PICKS AND TAKE BACK NO SHITTY CONTRACTS LOL. Mind boggling how some other teams in the nba can be this dumb, it's like these gm's want Kupchek to like them so they let him rape them

Dwight Howard should get boo'd everywhere he goes heavily... Lebron may make out biggest winner in this because right now the nba has real fans, then everyone else who watches who are frontrunners of LA or Miami, and most will gladly jump on Miami bandwagon now come finals time next June. Howard will not Leave LA for Dallas though because he will at least realize he will be loved there, while HATED elsewhere. fuck him and his back...

As usual with a lot of mid-market teams, the deal had more to do with big money than the big picture for Denver.

just worth mentioning that, especially to go along with ur point, when all fans are crying over lakers getting their way, it's teams like Denver who made it possible, because it is first and foremost, a business

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Kobe could win 7 and still MJ >>>>>>>> Kobe

>Kobe could win 7 and still MJ >>>>>>>> Kobe

not just the LeBron one, but the Shaq one as well

as though everything is in a vacuum lol

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The Heat's last ring don't count since we discrediting wins.

It doesn't count for all of the following reasons:

It was a strike shortened season.

All of the Heat's competitor's suffered season ending injuries in the playoffs.

The Big 3 all deserve lifetime achievement awards for acting and flopping.

It only took three superstars IN THEIR PRIME (c) Lebatard to win a chip and even then they needed help from the refs.

The Heat had to stack the deck, rig the table AND blackmail the competition.

The Heat didn't two or three peat.

Kobe/Shaq won the second Phil got there. The Heat took too long.

If Kobe needed Shaq and his rings don't count then none of Lebron's ever count.

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all that cash we gonna have next offseason? Sheeeeeeeit (c)

This is exactly what I wanted. This is the perfect return for Iggy, I don't think they could have done better.

I been saying this for a minute...trade Iggy, amnesty Brand, save cash for next year.

FINALLY Sixers are doing something right

I was cool with Nash, but this shit...I might be mad if we didn't pull Bynum out this deal.

WCF should be fun at least.



Denver won too.


Orlando though? LOL

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wow...

yeah it's not like Stern has done anything like blocking trades....

Backing up old man Nash! Providing the 'Hongibles! GOOD! GOOD!

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Goudlock better...

It's a celebration, Warren! More rings for you, more rings for Duke! Powers combining! GOOD!

players who are after thoughts on blockbuster deals..

the D-League should stand for the Duke league....lololol....

i'm not seeing him in any article yet
but they weren't saying harkless at first either
those "other players" might be important if it's a lavoy allen or somebody

ain't nobody mentioning duhon as part of this....

EVER actually contributed anything above a minor role to any NBA championship...

ever...


wow...

only rings duke playesr have gotten have been as bench players or minor role players...

and even with that.... Is Battier the only Dukie with an NBA title..

lolololol......

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still no excuses

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thank you and good nite.

So long Drew, hopefully stearn doesn't fuck us

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lakers are working hard to add to bron/durant's legacies at least.

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Definition of MAD
1
: disordered in mind : insane
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a : completely unrestrained by reason and judgment <driven mad by the pain> b : incapable of being explained or accounted for <a mad decision>
3
: carried away by intense anger : furious <mad about the delay>
4
: carried away by enthusiasm or desire <mad about horses>
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: affected with rabies : rabid
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: marked by wild gaiety and merriment : hilarious
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: intensely excited : frantic
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: marked by intense and often chaotic activity : wild <a mad scramble>
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6. He's mad keen on sailing.

Origin of MAD
Middle English medd, madd, from Old English gemǣd, past participle of *gemǣdan to madden, from gemād silly, mad; akin to Old High German gimeit foolish, crazy
First Known Use: before 12th century
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mad
   /mæd/ Show Spelled Show IPA adjective, mad·der, mad·dest, noun, verb, mad·ded, mad·ding.
adjective
1.
mentally disturbed; deranged; insane; demented.
2.
enraged; greatly provoked or irritated; angry.
3.
(of animals)
a.
abnormally furious; ferocious: a mad bull.
b.
affected with rabies; rabid: a mad dog.
4.
extremely foolish or unwise; imprudent; irrational: a mad scheme to invade France.
5.
wildly excited or confused; frantic: mad haste.
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overcome by desire, eagerness, enthusiasm, etc.; excessively or uncontrollably fond; infatuated: He's mad about the opera.
7.
wildly gay or merry; enjoyably hilarious: to have a mad time at the Mardi Gras.
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(of wind, storms, etc.) furious in violence: A mad gale swept across the channel.
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an angry or ill-tempered period, mood, or spell: The last time he had a mad on, it lasted for days.


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verb (used with object)
10.
Archaic . to make mad.
verb (used without object)
11.
Archaic . to be, become, or act mad.
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like mad, Informal . with great haste, impulsiveness, energy, or enthusiasm: She ran like mad to catch the bus.
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mad as a hatter, completely insane.
Origin:
before 900; Middle English mad (adj.), madden (intransitive v., derivative of the adj.); Old English gemǣd ( e ) d, past participle of *gemǣdan to make mad, akin to gemād mad, foolish; cognate with Old Saxon gemēd, Old High German gimeit foolish

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Synonyms
1. lunatic, maniacal, crazed, crazy. 2. furious, exasperated, raging, wrathful, irate. 4. ill-advised; unsafe, dangerous, perilous. Mad, crazy, insane are used to characterize wildly impractical or foolish ideas, actions, etc. Mad suggests senselessness and excess: The scheme of buying the bridge was absolutely mad. In informal usage, crazy suggests recklessness and impracticality: a crazy young couple. Insane is used with some opprobrium to express unsoundness and possible harmfulness: The new traffic system is simply insane. 5. frenzied.

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4. sensible, practical; sound, safe.

Usage note
Mad meaning “enraged, angry” has been used since 1300, and this sense is a very common one. Because some teachers and usage critics insist that the only correct meaning of mad is “mentally disturbed, insane,” mad is often replaced by angry in formal contexts: The President is angry at Congress for overriding his veto.

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* The joy and moral stimulation of work no longer must be forgotten in the mad chase of evanescent profits.

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* Nothing gets people mad quicker than feeling unloved, or more to the point, disrespected.

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* The joy and moral stimulation of work no longer must be forgotten in the mad chase of evanescent profits.

* The company tests the serum on apes, one of which goes mad and has to be destroyed.

* Don't be mad at government because you made risky decisions.

* Nobody would be mad at you if you deleted that first comment.

* Yet indeed, the covert operations going mad nowadays.

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* Nothing gets people mad quicker than feeling unloved, or more to the point, disrespected.

* Mark got really mad and said he was going to go over the side to warm up.

* The thing that really makes me mad is that our budget priorities are all screwed up.

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* Fill a few with dry ice to turn your house into a mad scientist's laboratory.

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No they weren't. The Nets deal was just as horrific. They were going to suck either way, and it didn't seem like they were in just being an 8th seed mode.

why not let dhoward walk? your plan to suck is fulfilled w/ lotto picks and cap space

why not just do a bynum/d12 swap?

Houston had better offers than this shit platter they just got.

Orlando did a terrible move in the worst possible way.

>why not let dhoward walk? your plan to suck is fulfilled w/
>lotto picks and cap space
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Oh I would have let him walk, but NBA GM's never seem content with that. They love the idea of getting something.

>why not just do a bynum/d12 swap?
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And come on they didn't want to deal with another big man that shows signs of immaturity.

>Houston had better offers than this shit platter they just
>got.
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Maybe Houston wasn't actually willing to risk losing their assets. We may never find out, but i wouldn't have done the trade if I were Houston.

>Orlando did a terrible move in the worst possible way.

he was gonna leave for nothing at the end of the season.

Lulz

But atleast kobe gets to ride the coattails of another big
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Kobe more rings than Shaq...


Kobe beat Dwight in finals.

No coat tail ridin homie.

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Kobe more rings than Shaq...


Kobe beat Dwight in finals.

No coat tail ridin homie.

Don't think all the info is out yet in terms of details but the structure looks good.

GO HEAT! *They got Howard! Damn! Damn! Damn!*

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Gregory Porter-Be Good
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N.B.A.= W.W.E.

still will lose to the thunder and also the lakers are old.

a bit more entertaining until his back and Nash's back give out

SOuth beach keeps the Jewelry and Kobe needs a Ladder to climb as usual.

blockbuster trade for Kareem Abdul Jabbar

trade players for future draft picks....one turns into Magic Johnson, the other turns into James Worthy

aquire Mykcal Thompason and Bob McAdoo to reinforce your bench during showtime...

trade Vlade for Kobe, and sign Shaq as a free agent...

after 3 peat...... draft Andrew Bynum using one of the 3 lottery picks your team has ever had....

trade for Pau Gasol...

after winning 3 more conference championships and 2 world championships in a row....

trade Andrew Bynum for Dwight Howard....

you gotta go back before Kareem, what about when we got Wilt? lol

>blockbuster trade for Kareem Abdul Jabbar
>
>trade players for future draft picks....one turns into Magic
>Johnson, the other turns into James Worthy
>
>aquire Mykcal Thompason and Bob McAdoo to reinforce your bench
>during showtime...
>
>trade Vlade for Kobe, and sign Shaq as a free agent...
>
>after 3 peat...... draft Andrew Bynum using one of the 3
>lottery picks your team has ever had....
>
>trade for Pau Gasol...
>
>after winning 3 more conference championships and 2 world
>championships in a row....
>
>trade Andrew Bynum for Dwight Howard....

Ok so the Orlando Magic rejected this deal by the Nets: Final Nets offer Orlando rejected in July: Lopez, Humphries (1 year, $9.6M), Brooks, 4 unprotected No. 1's for Howard, JRich, Duhon, Clark. And took this current deal from the Lakers and Sixers.....and I'm the only one who thinks this is fishy?......

That deal isn't much better though. They still suck with that deal. Brook is a bum, Marshon just shoots, and those picks would have been lame. Nothing fishy, the minute the Nets had to pay Lopez to keep him from other teams was the same minute their Dwight chances decreased.

>That deal isn't much better though. They still suck with that
>deal. Brook is a bum, Marshon just shoots, and those picks
>would have been lame. Nothing fishy, the minute the Nets had
>to pay Lopez to keep him from other teams was the same minute
>their Dwight chances decreased.


Man...cut that shit out...lol...Brooklyn was offering a MUCH better deal....Not only were they giving away UNPROTECTED picks, but one of those picks were going to come from a shitty team...And they were going to take Richardson and another shitty contract off Orlando's hands...

This is not about being fishy...This is not a conspiracy....It's about Orlando having a horrible GM...You always take a scoring big men over a streaky SG...

Orlando made one of the worst deals I've seen in decades...Orlando deserves to be losers...

>>That deal isn't much better though. They still suck with
>that
>>deal. Brook is a bum, Marshon just shoots, and those picks
>>would have been lame. Nothing fishy, the minute the Nets had
>>to pay Lopez to keep him from other teams was the same
>minute
>>their Dwight chances decreased.
>
>
>Man...cut that shit out...lol...Brooklyn was offering a MUCH
>better deal....Not only were they giving away UNPROTECTED
>picks, but one of those picks were going to come from a shitty
>team...And they were going to take Richardson and another
>shitty contract off Orlando's hands...
>
>This is not about being fishy...This is not a
>conspiracy....It's about Orlando having a horrible GM...You
>always take a scoring big men over a streaky SG...
>
>Orlando made one of the worst deals I've seen in
>decades...Orlando deserves to be losers...


The best deal the Magic had was to let Dwight walk, and go from there. Both deals were ugly, and since the Nets couldn't trade Lopez until January they took this one. Wojo posted the Nets final offer a few minutes ago on twitter, and wasn't a dream. I would have let him walk, but NBA GM's are what they are. Neither deal was great IMO

lol....

*blank stare*

What's the issue? Dwight Howard forced their hand, they thought they could persuade him to stay, the Nets had already resigned Lopez, so they took a bad deal. Sounds like NBA shit to me. I thought the Nets deal was bad, and I think this one is bad. A Magic fan on twitter talked me into not calling their GM an idiot. I would have let Dwight walk personally. I'm sorry, but neither deal was like the Melo deal.

>What's the issue? Dwight Howard forced their hand, they
>thought they could persuade him to stay, the Nets had already
>resigned Lopez, so they took a bad deal. Sounds like NBA shit
>to me. I thought the Nets deal was bad, and I think this one
>is bad. A Magic fan on twitter talked me into not calling
>their GM an idiot. I would have let Dwight walk personally.
>I'm sorry, but neither deal was like the deal the Melo deal.


U not getting it...

ORLANDO could have gotten a better deal....better draft picks, better players and they would have been able to unload more contracts...And Brooklyn was that team...

This is not the typical NBA shit....lol...This is just an organization making a horrible deal...

No one expected Orlando to get equal value for Howard...U rarely do in the NBA...But this? This was just bad business, especially when you had a better deal already in your grasp...

Orlando = Losers.....And stupid I might add....

>>What's the issue? Dwight Howard forced their hand, they
>>thought they could persuade him to stay, the Nets had
>already
>>resigned Lopez, so they took a bad deal. Sounds like NBA
>shit
>>to me. I thought the Nets deal was bad, and I think this one
>>is bad. A Magic fan on twitter talked me into not calling
>>their GM an idiot. I would have let Dwight walk personally.
>>I'm sorry, but neither deal was like the deal the Melo deal.
>
>
>
>U not getting it...
>
>ORLANDO could have gotten a better deal....better draft picks,
>better players and they would have been able to unload more
>contracts...And Brooklyn was that team...
>
According to Wojo on twitter. the last deal the Nets offered had Howard, Earl Clark, Duhon and Richardson leaving the Magic. All those players leave in this deal. In that Deal they would have taken back Lopez, Brooks and 4 1st rounders. He didn't specify where they came from, but it didn't seem a like a terrible team was providing them. Which is why I'm saying I wouldn't have taken either deal. I'm sorry I don't see how that deal makes them much better. Again the best deal the GM had was letting him walk in the summer
>This is not the typical NBA shit....lol...This is just an
>organization making a horrible deal...
>

Yea well they've always made terrible deals though. They're cursed.

>No one expected Orlando to get equal value for Howard...U
>rarely do in the NBA...But this? This was just bad business,
>especially when you had a better deal already in your
>grasp...
>
>Orlando = Losers.....And stupid I might add....

It's just a bad deal...

And then add to the fact that they (Brooklyn) had the Bobcats (or) Cleveland involved to give up a REAL 1st round draft pick to Orlando to go along with those other draft picks in the deal...

It's just bad all around...NBA GM's are reportedly baffled by this deal...Again, quite possibly the worst trade ever made...

Well yea it's a horrible deal. I just don't understand acting like the Nets were offering Westbrook/Ibaka or something.They were offering 2 average players, and late draft picks because the Bobcats/Cavs backed out. We might not be having this convo if the Nets didn't trade for Gerald Wallace.

>Well yea it's a horrible deal. I just don't understand acting
>like the Nets were offering Westbrook/Ibaka or something.

Nah...that was never the point...But I would always take an offensive minded big man over a streaky SG anytime...I would also rather take unprotected picks over protected picks...



>They were offering 2 average players, and late draft picks because
>the Bobcats/Cavs backed out. We might not be having this convo
>if the Nets didn't trade for Gerald Wallace.


A Big man that averages nearly 20 points a game is not average...We can make jokes about Lopez all day, but a lack of true big men in the league increases his value...If Lopez was playing in the era of say Ewing, Dream, O'Neal and the like, then yeah, you would have a point...

The irony is, Cleveland backed out because people were balking that they were helping Brooklyn get Howard (after Cleveland's owner Dan Gilbert bitched and moaned about small market teams not being able to keep their franchise players and the thought of super teams...he got cold feet...)

All this to say, Orlando fucked up....

Yes they did fuck up. From what Wojo just tweeted they should have taken the Rockets deal which is much better than the one they ook and the Nets deal.

lopez is not a bum, and the Magic GM will be made to look like a fool because of it next season

infuckingcredible

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Final Nets offer Orlando rejected in July: Lopez, Humphries (1 year, $9.6M), Brooks, 4 unprotected No. 1's for Howard, JRich, Duhon, Clark.

I might have taken that deal, but from what I'm reading...the Magic would have preferred Bynum over Lopez (oh yeah...plus they were not at all willing to over pay for Humphries)

but unfortunately for the Magic, Bynum preferred giving the Sixers more assurances that he'd re-up..

Maybe the Magic should hve taken that trade..the 3 #1s would have been great....but from their perspective they had a reasonable risk of having over paid for guys who get hurt or are overrated in Lopez and Humphries.... they are still getting 3 #1s, but they are gonna be 1 each from the other 3 teams involved which is better than getting 3 picks from 1 team.

he would have re-signed an extension in Orlando, no doubt.

i'm sorry... too much justification listed above here for getting a poo poo platter deal. It still doesn't make sense.

It's one thing to be happy that your team got over, homie...GREAT deal for the Lake Show...

But let's chill with downplaying that Brooklyn deal...Orlando just happens to be a horrible franchise that deserves to take L's for the rest of their existence...

it's gonna be easy for conspiracy theorists to claim that Orlando got a flagrantly better deal and turned it down just to help the Lakers...

the fact is that that in hindsight it may have been a better deal...but the fact was that Orlando held out on that deal...partially to see if it would get better, but also partially because that is exactly where Dwight wanted to go...in their same conference to add to it..

and yes... they had reservations about being obligated to maxx out Lopez and over pay for Humphries to keep them...because if you don't keep them, you got nothing for Howard...

that ship sailed because Orlando had reservations about that deal..

this deal honestly became the only other deal they could get. Dwight was only gonna re-up with Brooklyn...and the only team that was in a position to trade for him without him agreeing to re-up before hand was the Lakers...

that left the Lakers as the only destination choice..

sure the reasoning may have been bad.......but in the end they had no choice....

if they take that deal and Lopez continues to get hurt and/or turns into just and average center that you're paying maxx money too.... that would have destroyed their franchise potentionally...

there was risk to the Nets deal....in hindsight it may have been better than the Laker deal..but it had risks.

>it's gonna be easy for conspiracy theorists to claim that
>Orlando got a flagrantly better deal and turned it down just
>to help the Lakers...

No conspiracies...Just Orlando being Orlando....

>
>
>It's one thing to be happy that your team got over,
>homie...GREAT deal for the Lake Show...
>
>But let's chill with downplaying that Brooklyn deal...Orlando
>just happens to be a horrible franchise that deserves to take
>L's for the rest of their existence...

for Lopez and Humphries and didn't re-sign them..

that would mean you basiclly let Howard go for nothing..

if you get back Lopez and Humphries, the only real value to that would be to re-sign them....and they didn't want to do that..

and was like, "oh man"

I was there when Ced Ceballos was running the show.. lol
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hmmm...because you know it's true.

I was actually a Laker fan back in those days. I remember but i was also a little kid and my life didnt revolve around sports for the sake of my own sanity.


regardless...those days were soooo short lol you got Kobe in '96. smh


If it weren't for Stern's cockblock I wouldnt doubt the potential of a Paul/Kobe/Howard triple threat.

Anyway...Nash and Kobe are done, Lakeshow bench = LOL, Pau's a bitch and clown ass Howard is your only hope. Good Luck.

Eat a dick.

just like I know some real Yankee fans, but as a yankee fan a lot of yankee fans I know are frontrunning frauds, lakers have the same problem... doesnt mean that a bunch of yall arent crazy fans

that Drew Bynum is the 2nd coming of Moses...

Fo....Fo.....Fo....

>

I don't want to hear no one shit on what Brooklyn was offering...because Orlando got SHITTED on in that deal...lol

Really, Afflalo and Al Harrington?.....AND "protected" draft picks?

Man, Orlando is a horrible franchise....Wow...

Not sure what the thought process was behind this

If I were the Magic I wouldn't have taken either deal. I'd much prefer to let him leave, and go from there.

nm

ANY deal would have been much better than this....lol

This was just an inept showing by the Orlando brass...Again, I don't want to hear anything about how Brooklyn was offering a horrible deal...That's silly talk...

And while I'm at it, fuck my Bulls...You mean, we couldn't have given away Deng (any other quality 2nd-3rd tier player) to get Bynum?

Wow...

smith/holford for howard?

It was the deal they should have taken. It was much better than the deal they took, and what the Nets were offering. I'd like to know the reasoning for not taking it.

The new GM was adamant about getting picks, and Brooklyn gave up 4 unprotected picks. This one all the picks are protected. Plus, the players they are getting are about a wash to what Brooklyn was giving up (actually, Brooklyn's players were better)

Honestly, every deal they were offered was better

>The new GM was adamant about getting picks, and Brooklyn gave
>up 4 unprotected picks. This one all the picks are protected.
>Plus, the players they are getting are about a wash to what
>Brooklyn was giving up (actually, Brooklyn's players were
>better)
>
>Honestly, every deal they were offered was better


Again....this is true^^^^^

I'm just shaking my head...lol

it was his first major deal in a situation where he had little leverage
plus people forget GMs work under the guidelines of an owner....
the magic were in the war room for 6 months over this trade
they took their time and got what they wanted apparently
let's see what this GM can actually do going forward

I don't care if he's a newbie...it was a horrible deal...if this deal came out the blue that would be one thing. But there were other deals already on the table. My issue more than anything are the protected draft picks Orlando is receiving. To me that's a terrible blunder. Is it hyperbole saying that the young dude is the worst NBA GM ever? Maybe. But considering that they complained about the other deals that Brooklyn and the like were offering...But then they turn around and make this horrible deal? Its laughable...But props to the Lakers and Philly...and Denver didn't do too bad either...

"thats the only way I'm letting you trade Drew".

I'm assuming Drew is already in bubble wraps somewhere in mike browns dungeon. Besides, Dwight not agreeing to an extension might be a blessing in disguise pending his recovery from back surgery .

>I'm assuming Drew is already in bubble wraps somewhere in
>mike browns dungeon. Besides, Dwight not agreeing to an
>extension might be a blessing in disguise pending his recovery
>from back surgery .

.

Barbosa could be the next acquisition

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/los-angeles-lakers-eye-barbosa-amidst-strong-olympic-073400230--nba.html

All these centers make me wish we didn't have Hawes tho.

there's gotta be a market for him, and with the luck we've been having lately, who knows?

But if we keep him, whatever, he's only on a 2 year deal and he's a great back up for injury-prone Bynum.

i'd steal on dwight if i were him..fk it

he's basically gotten dicked out of two jobs for political reasons while still being seen as relatively successful at both, Orlando's still paying him to sit home right now.

He can go get a TV gig for a bit & then eventually hold out for a perfect situation for big money when a team desperate for a name coach with a resume comes calling.

>he's basically gotten dicked out of two jobs for political
>reasons while still being seen as relatively successful at
>both, Orlando's still paying him to sit home right now.
>
>He can go get a TV gig for a bit & then eventually hold out
>for a perfect situation for big money when a team desperate
>for a name coach with a resume comes calling.
>
>

during the broadcasts.

They didn't ship D12 to the team he wanted to go to. They tool their time and got the best deal for their squad. The Brooklyn deal was better but fuck that nigga D12. Y'all knew he wasn't getting traded the second he started slandering the franchise. Would you trade a nigga to his preferred team after he claimed you forced him to resign with your franchise? Nope, fuck that nigga.

>They didn't ship D12 to the team he wanted to go to. They
>tool their time and got the best deal for their squad. The
>Brooklyn deal was better but fuck that nigga D12. Y'all knew
>he wasn't getting traded the second he started slandering the
>franchise. Would you trade a nigga to his preferred team after
>he claimed you forced him to resign with your franchise? Nope,
>fuck that nigga.


lol

> They tool their time and got the best deal for their squad. The
>Brooklyn deal was better but fuck that nigga D12.

The Brooklyn deal was because there's something to sell the average Orlando fan. However, D12 repeatedly slandered the organization. He talked about the lack of support from the Magic. He talked about how they forced him to sign a deal. He lobbied hard to get to Brooklyn. However, Orlando would not fulfill his request because of his actions.

Orlando took the next best deal that put them in a place to succeed long-term. Initially he said he didn't want to go to LA. They shipped his ass there anyway.

For the record I'm happy the Lakers got D12. Kobe will beat a winning mentality into D12. I just hope D12 grows up.

don't drink the kool-aid that chris broussard is spillin on espn... Howard is definitely more then happy to be in a huge city with a chance to win a chip

a) he can win a chip as a rental, so worst case scenario for LA, they can win whether he stays or goes.
b) that doofy nigga loves the shine and aint really no bigger shine than L.A. once his management goes about the puketastic rehab of his image, he's gonna be hawkin everything from dental floss to widgets.
c) he's as wishy washy as they come, you think he's not going to re-up?
d) who's really going to be in a position to sign him next year? dallas and who else? detroit? houston? utah?

>They didn't ship D12 to the team he wanted to go to. They
>tool their time and got the best deal for their squad. The
>Brooklyn deal was better but fuck that nigga D12. Y'all knew
>he wasn't getting traded the second he started slandering the
>franchise. Would you trade a nigga to his preferred team after
>he claimed you forced him to resign with your franchise? Nope,
>fuck that nigga.

who says he's so upset anyway? Chris Broussard? All along LA was on his list then all of a sudden a few rumors spread that he didnt wanna play there, could have been complete BS... He shit on the magic and the whole city he played in and still got his way because the GM is a pussy and apparently an idiot

honestly believe that Bynum MIGHT sign an extension there if they make another playoff run like that again this upcoming season.

other than that, the Magic's pieces are OK but they could have gotten way better from Brooklyn... but at the same time, there's no Turkeyglue movement here either

don't fuck this up Stern

.

>honestly believe that Bynum MIGHT sign an extension there if
>they make another playoff run like that again this upcoming
>season.
>
>other than that, the Magic's pieces are OK but they could have
>gotten way better from Brooklyn... but at the same time,


>there's no Turkeyglue movement here either

Exactly why I don't buy deal either deal being better than the other. If they lost out on shedding both Hedo and J Rich I would call them really stupid. As it stands they're just stupid. Both deals were ugly and draft lottery enabling.


>don't fuck this up Stern
>

Mitch: 'Damn this genius shit is hard work. I feel like fucking 10 dimes while pouring moet down their butt cracks' *walks down the hall and makes a right, winks at the camera with slight grin before opening door*

D12 for Bynum and one first. This effin guy.

the Lakeshow

You combine a skilled GM and team with an organization fully committed to excellence along with the location/market.

at least Memphis got a good young asset in Gasol who panned out... that's impossible here, protected nba draft picks are shit

what a terrible franchise.

Leave them be

Because, I'm sooo not mad, like, at all

WAY TO GO DORKS!

way to put ALLLL your eggs in one stupid dumb ass basket!

now look @ our roster!

LOOK @ this bullshit!

ohhhhh this is pitiful.

THIS?

is PITIFUL.

heads should roll for this.


smh

we needed that makeover....and also got a lottery pick to boot....so i'm not really mad he blew it up....i know morey is still seeking a superstar...and this is going to give him a chance to see what he has before the trade deadline and next draft....

and take the chance Howard ditches the 30 mil? pathetic

I think Morey said fugg it

http://i.imgur.com/CDaT9.gif

Still won't get it done.

than Bron does

This still doesn't make the Lakers better than the Heat so no excuses for Bron next season. The nigga better get it done.

Nobody really seems to be all that mad. More comments on how bad the trade is for the Magic than anything else.

Nash/Kobe/anyone/Pau/Dwight vs. anyone/Ray/Wade/Bron/Bosh? That's an interesting matchup as LA has the more traditional lineup going small to big-- they'll run half court and Miami will just want to run. Pau/Dwight should discourage Bron/Wade from just driving to the rim willy nilly... it's a very interesting matchup development, subjectively speaking. If the Heat effectively keep the game fast and transition-based, the Show can't hang. If the Lakers slow the tempo, I'm not sure the Heat can hang. Injuries will obviously play a big part too... should be a great year.

For these two teams anyway. For everyone else it'll probably suck.

*orders Duhon Lakers jersey for my imminent move to LA*

is better. As a whole, they are neck and neck. i'd give la a slight edge if i had to now b.c their offense 'should' come easier.

either way, i don't think any real L's can be doled out if one of these teams loses in a 7 game series come June.

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I don't blame you. Kobe is garbage.

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lol

I mean I get it

Yal get better defense in the post

But terrible defense on the perimeter

still don't see yal getting past okc

westbrook and harden going to be having free reign to attack d12 and get him in foul trouble

But with that said I would love an miami/laker final

Bron sending kobe out on an L would be heavenly

however I don't see it

I think denver has the 2nd best squad in the west behind okc


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..lol @ "..i will not PURSUIT you..."


..and miles to go before i sleep...

.

no excuses

jrue,turner,youngs, hawes, bynum, cake, jrich, wright...am i missing something.

i saw someone mention ecf? lol

i'm still thinking 6-8 seed and 4th in the atlantic.

>
>i'm still thinking 6-8 seed and 4th in the atlantic.
>
>

They're still not better than Boston and Brooklyn, and even with your extreme Knicks hate, they're not better than the Knicks either

We might have the toughest division next to the Southwest

bron got a chip
knicks got worse
sixers got better
he mad
edit:nvm spoke too soon

status over Kobe having MUUUULTIPLE (you familiar with that word right)?

Not relevant, of course not much like your insertion of Lebron lmao.

ain't that par for the course for you?
ain't like melo ever won shit for you to talk about
good luck battling the sixers for Atlantic Division supremacy (lol)

>ain't that par for the course for you?
>ain't like ai ever won shit for you to talk about

>(lol)

knicks didnt have a PG til 8 weeks into the season...

were missing both Melo and Stat for large chunks of the season...

had 0 depth in the front court, their +/- numbers w/ w/o Chandler were night and day...almost 0 depth at PG...

Knicks NOW have

Kidd/Felton at PG
Smith/Brewer at SG
Melo/Novakaine at SF
Stat/Thomas/Camby/Chandler handling PF + C

not to mention Shump when he comes back...


>bron got a chip
>knicks got worse
>sixers got better
>he mad
>edit:nvm spoke too soon

yes they had good parts but in games he played well they are tough to beat...Bynum will give Philly that every single night... in a league without many good centers he's a really good center... huge upgrade...

>jrue,turner,youngs, hawes, bynum, cake, jrich, wright...am i
>missing something.
>
>i saw someone mention ecf? lol
>
>i'm still thinking 6-8 seed and 4th in the atlantic.
>
>

And explain to me how that over-paid and poorly constructed mess is going to get out of the first round?


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Same as it ever was!

i said we were better than philly. lol

You'll make more headlines and be on tv more.

But better I'on know. You might be underestimating shump being out and overestimating felton. He amare looked good in the dreaded d'antoni system.


----------------------------
Same as it ever was!

more excited about having kidd for 20-25 mins a night then i am felton lol

http://www.businessinsider.com/raymond-felton-fat-picture-2012-7

If javale develops a solid post game this summer thats kinda scary

Iggy
Lawson
Gallinari
Javale
Chandler
Faried
Miller

Thats a damb squad


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they are as good as any team in the west after la and okc. and they are going to run teams out the damn gym.

still need a closer tho come playoff time.

over Afflalo, I can see them being a top 4 team in the west

into this deal lol

all Denver did was help the West get more top heavy, and they ain't part of said top

They took the lakers 7

Javale finally taking his game serious

Iggy on board with that post-olympic glow

they going to surprise some folks
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oh wait..

This team is MAJORLY underrated.

Lawson could become a 20 and 7-8 PG, already a 17 and 7 guy
Gallinari using that passing game more
Faried real good
McGee focused is scary .. won't be relied on night in night out but will do ok.
Iggy ...the best defensive perimeter forward without the initials LJ, great passer, can score
Chandler a scoring threat off the bench
Miller a VERY decent off the bench PG
and Don't forget a couple decent 10 min a game centers in Koufos and i guess Mozgov..

Hope they start:
Lawson, Iggy, Rooster, Faried, Koufos and then McGee playing 25-30, Miller 15-20, Chandler 20-25..

if he was the one actually pulling the strings and not Jim, who knows these days, but who cares right now?! lol

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Now that I look at this, the Lakers now have a team of Kobe, Gasol, Howard, Metta, Nash, Jamison, Duhon????? Where was Stern when we needed him this time? lol. I mean cotdamn. This making me so sick I don't wanna renew my league pass. lol

because once again, he has proved he is the devil.

Don't be mad that he had no options to dish to and he shot poorly in the D'Antoni offense. If all he has to do is relieve Nash by playing D and passing to Kobe and Dwight and Pau, he'll be golden.

Kobe, Gasol, Howard, Metta, Nash, Jamison, Duhon


No one is gonna bat an eye at a trade that sends duhon to LA. so for Lach's point, the inclusion of duhon was comical. I kinda thought that was his point but whatevs.

you keep fighting the fight of defending dukies and 16 year old girls tho.

So mentioning him like he's a key player for the Lakers......I don't even know that he'll definitely make the team. I'd be pleasantly surprised if he plays well enough to be in the rotation. He was a solid backup in Chicago, but that was 4-5 years ago.

He won't even play over Steve Blake or possibly even Godluck while meaning less to this Laker team than McBob did to last year's (and them finding Hill to spell that Murphy/McBob white-bread-and-mayo sandwich was one of the few late-season bright spots).

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Mmmmhmmmm.

y'all winning some Not Shit w/ a side of coleslaw.

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this is a joke, right? this is like makeup for last summer? what a joke. I can see why other GMs get livid about competitive balance. what idiot would give away Dwight 6 months prior to the real deadline of having to give him away for the shit show they just got back? what a joke.

Lakers fans, be happy. yes, I'm mad. no, I don't seriously think anything illegal or extra-curricular happened, I'm just absolutely baffled at the incompetence of some of these GMs. it's like when you have a poker night with buddies, then somebody invites a friend who's "new, but willing to learn" and they make the whole night suck cuz they just shove chips around like an idiot while the friend that invited them cleans them out and then tall stacks the whole evening's affairs.

fucking NBA, man...

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At least y'all got Batum

....no doubt about it

Probably 2 of the next 4 drafts.

during the trade deadline they could have had the Nets 1st round pick that ended up going for Gerald Wallace AND the Nets 1st they had from Houston that ended up going for Joe Johnson... plus a few more picks, plus Marshon Brooks, plus Humphries expiring, plus getting rid of all shitty contracts...

with Shaq and Penny...

but the entire reason why there was ever a lottery in the first place is because of the Lakers. The trades that the Lakers did in with Utah and Cleveland for future first round picks that eventually turned into Magic Johnson and James Worthy..... The league eventually chose to go with a lottery system to give variation to the top draft order and making it less likely that a team that was already solid would be able to make a deal with a bad team that would result in the top pick..

the Lakers signing Shaq as a free agent resulted in changes to the salary cap after that in an effort for the league to make it more difficult for a team to sign a big money free agent from another team....if you look at the history of the league, game changing free agency signings and trades have always resulted in the league making changes to make it more difficult for it to happen in the future...

Now the league blocks the Lakers getting Chris Paul.....and the Lakers go to plan B and C by tradeing draft picks for Steve Nash, and trading Drew Bynum for Howard, Duhon and Clark...

One thing to learn from all of this is that a team like Orlando...or a team like Cleveland..... when you have your chance to win titles...you got to finish the job...because if you don't..those young players are going to leave.... If Shaq and them beat Houston...Deisel probably would have never been a Laker.....had Lebron and the Cavs won the title...Bron would probably still be in Cleveland...if Howard and them had won a title with the Magic...he probably would have wanted to leave..

when you get your chances..you got to take em..

The reason they tried to put large contracts in check was because of KG.

The only conspiracy part of my post was that Orlando mat have been promised some advantages to giving the Lakers a deal and nixing BK.

It wasn't coincidence that Orlando got two first's in the 90's and got their Blue Chips.


LA still has to win games and it will be interesting to see who is their post scorer now that Bynum is gone.

>LA still has to win games and it will be interesting to see
>who is their post scorer now that Bynum is gone.
>
>
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C'mon. Do better.

Like the NBA owners would really allow something like that to happen.

So fuck em

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the 15 yrs of history involved
but wasn't that the whole reason dwight didn't want to come to LA?
i wonder how this will impact him extending
or how his moody ass responds night to night

and damn @ the lakers having 3 of the top 5 most hated players on this board now
this shit gon be FUN

>and damn @ the lakers having 3 of the top 5 most hated players
>on this board now
>this shit gon be FUN
>

Cats absolutely HATE that dude...for what reason I don't know

The only time Wade was hated was in the playoffs, and that was more Heat fans worried that their boy was gonna lose in the 'offs

Cats that have nothing to do with the Knicks just hate Melo for any and every reason

and in that order

and in that order

i called this back when he was still competing with the Magic.
i wouldn't be surprised at all if the whole list of teams/brooklyn requests were bluffs.
anybody surprised by the weak deal for orlando should consider that LA is the destination D12 really wanted to go to.

I also believe he is 100% cool with going to LA... never bought into the fact the Nets were his one true love

Everyone loves to say "they got fleeced!" "terrible deal!".

Clearly, talent wasn't the goal here, long term financial flexibility was. This is supposedly going net them 20 million in cap space come 2014. So they have two seasons in the lottery to hopefully land a couple of good young players, 3-4 picks that can be packaged and flipped, plus Turkey Glue comes off the books in two years which makes him highly tradeable in one. So 2014 gives them cap space to either land a star or add pieces to the young guys they draft in the next two years, if they turn out to be stars themselves.

There was NO deal out there that does anything that keeps them a middling team with an overpaid max guy (Brook, for example) eating up cap space. Is that really a better situation? Basically trading Dwight to be a 6-8 seed at ABSOLUTE BEST for 4 years is hardly better than the position they're in now. This gives them a ton of flexibility going forward. What's best for the organization isn't always just getting an equal player, and in this case long term financial flexibility to build from scratch is absolutely better than getting some players that aren't exactly going to take you to the semis.

it makes being the fan of a small market team very, very tedious after a while.

"you're small market and your team lacks a AAA superstar? well tank, ship out any good players you have to save coin till you catch your white whale, and enjoy watching the Lakers deep runs into the playoffs while you scour the news on nbadraft.net."

and yes, I know the owners lacked the balls to really re-imagine how they're doing business and instead just threw a tantrum to get some more $$$ flowing back to them. that's why I've increasingly soured on the league.

>"you're small market and your team lacks a AAA superstar?
>well tank, ship out any good players you have to save coin
>till you catch your white whale, and enjoy watching the Lakers
>deep runs into the playoffs while you scour the news on
>nbadraft.net."

I can appreciate your bitterness toward the Lakers, lol. But that's not what this is. This about a team who paid out big money to players who flat out weren't worth it, said player got sick of it, and decided to bounce. Shard got a massive contract, and they flipped that bloated contract for Hedo and Gil and THEIR bloated contracts. They paid Gil to go away and then they overpaid for JRich, who is clearly on the decline. KG and Lebron are the absolute benchmark for situations like this, where a team languishes in mediocrity due to management, and the player finally says "You know what, FUCK YOU GUYS, I'm out." You can only do that shit for so long.

Orlando is a mess, and this particular deal sets them up as well as possible going forward. This arguably benefits them more than keeping D12 because they have no real flexibility to improve until next year at the earliest. This gives them a clean slate to start with and hard time frames to look at to plan their future.

>and yes, I know the owners lacked the balls to really
>re-imagine how they're doing business and instead just threw a
>tantrum to get some more $$$ flowing back to them. that's why
>I've increasingly soured on the league.

I don't understand this. The league was fucking fantastic this year. You'll always have some dumbass front offices, but this last season was easily the best overall in recent memory for a multitude of reasons. There was a lot of great basketball this year and truth be told, it only looks like it's getting better.

>I can appreciate your bitterness toward the Lakers, lol. But
>that's not what this is. This about a team who paid out big
>money to players who flat out weren't worth it, said player
>got sick of it, and decided to bounce. Shard got a massive
>contract, and they flipped that bloated contract for Hedo and
>Gil and THEIR bloated contracts. They paid Gil to go away and
>then they overpaid for JRich, who is clearly on the decline.
>KG and Lebron are the absolute benchmark for situations like
>this, where a team languishes in mediocrity due to management,
>and the player finally says "You know what, FUCK YOU GUYS, I'm
>out." You can only do that shit for so long.

I don't care that Dwight Howard got traded. it's just ridiculous that trading a potentially top 3 talent in the NBA, guaranteed 50-win player, nets you "cap relief for 2014 and a chance at landing a player to be named later." that sucks for Orlando fans. that does NOT make me want to buy a ticket to go to the arena.

>I don't understand this. The league was fucking fantastic this
>year. You'll always have some dumbass front offices, but this
>last season was easily the best overall in recent memory for a
>multitude of reasons. There was a lot of great basketball this
>year and truth be told, it only looks like it's getting
>better.

cuz I'm not a front-running punk like some, I turn on the NBA primarily for the Blazers + Warriors, which is rarely an opportunity to watch my team win anything more than a 5-8 seed at best, and I detested the basketball league-wide last year because the effect of lockout-shortened schedule was evident in every game.

and my best friend that I get together with on every opening night + big playoff game to watch NBA is a Phoenix fan, who has nothing to be excited about next year and likely will have to avoid every ESPN broadcast cuz Nash in LA just fucking sucks too much to watch.

and that's fine, I get that's how the league works, not mad at all at the Lakers for maximizing their advantage, just responding to the idea that "this is a good trade for the Magic because it clears up logistical management problems" would NOT make me excited as a Magic fan and is just another reminder to all the small market, cold weather fans that cheering for their local team is just an exercise in hoping you'll get to briefly watch a star before he finds ultimate success elsewhere. the end.

the reason he's not staying is b/c of the poor management decisions, not b/c of small market.

he didn't make them draft fran vasquez, being in a small market didn't make them draft fran vasquez. it didn't make them overpay to keep jameer nelson it didn't make them draft, resign and never ever play ol boy from duke etc.

they made this bed and it is their own. fault.

detroit is no major media market anymore and when we were winning, we got guys who could play at reasonable prices. we're not winning now b/c of a bunch of decisions that the front office made all on their own.



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and yeah, we can blame management for that, too. so whatever. blame management. I wouldn't be a fan of the NBA in Orlando.

for in over 15 years. Don't blame the league because basketball has more teams than true stars. Nothing can fix that minus changing the rules to include 11 guys on the court per side.

>for in over 15 years. Don't blame the league because
>basketball has more teams than true stars. Nothing can fix
>that minus changing the rules to include 11 guys on the court
>per side.

if you have a top 3 talent, guaranteed 50-win / couple pieces away from a contender player, it shouldn't be a situation where dealing that asset nets you primarily cap savings and people call that a reasonable trade. that's fucked up. that's broken. and they need to tweak things to fix it.

bc dwight threatened that he was willing to take less money to choose his own team in free agency. there's really nothing you cna do to stop that other than restrict player free agency.

if the magic wanted to keep him, maybe they should've kept him from knocking up that team dancer.

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they just wanted money with that lockout shit. if they were serious about "competitive balance" crap, they woulda come up with something better. instead we just get more of the same, only with more money going back to the owners.

it's cool, I get it. every time a team hits middle, but not top, they'll go through the process of blowing the team up to clear cap + stockpile draft picks, put their fans through shit for 2-3 years while they do it just like we're used to. I'm getting increasingly bored of it, though, b/c the Brons + D12s of the world have proven that players have the real power and can go where they want. great for certain teams. pretty tiring if you're not one of them.

they're the best at what they do. tyson chandler ain't got the power.

if orlando wanted to keep him, they should made sure he knew how to put on a rubber before he knocked up that team dancer and put her on basketball wives


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>if you have a top 3 talent, guaranteed 50-win / couple pieces
>away from a contender player, it shouldn't be a situation
>where dealing that asset nets you primarily cap savings and
>people call that a reasonable trade. that's fucked up.
>that's broken. and they need to tweak things to fix it.

Let's start here:

1. Show me all the teams with really good players on them, the kind of players and assets that you would consider valuable enough to warrant trading Dwight for.

2. Those teams are pretty much ALL playoff teams. So, lets weed out all the ones that are willing to gut their team to land Dwight. Then, let's look at the ones that are willing to GAMBLE on him resigning.

Who's on THAT list?

3. You really don't consider the front office and their vision at all.

So, if you have the following choices:

-Trade him for financial flexibility and the ability to start from scratch?

OR

-Field a middling team that will be a low playoff seed, little to no financial, and no REAL shot at gaining ground on being a legit title contender?

Scratch is a no brainer. Instead of being forced to work on the fly in a situation that all but promises mediocrity, why wouldn't the obvious choice be to start all over and have a clean slate?

being a major media market has done fuck all for the Knicks like...ever.

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Turkolu still on team lol

of course trades aren't all about talent. But you can also get better deals with saving money and capspace as well. Houston and Nets showed this. You do realize sucking and getting lotto picks also eats cap space as well right?????

and why trade now? Why not wait til 3 months into season, to see what else is tradeable....

People backing the Magic in this, laughable lol

looking back at that deal, Hornets were really receiving a pretty solid haul, he had zero business getting involved, just like he would have zero business getting involved with this deal.

Stern took the fall for that shit but it wasn't his call. it's tired blaming him for that shit.

but yeah, this is absolutely a reminder of how inept some senior NBA management is, that couldn't be more true.

>Stern took the fall for that shit but it wasn't his call.
>it's tired blaming him for that shit.

>looking back at that deal, Hornets were really receiving a
>pretty solid haul, he had zero business getting involved, just
>like he would have zero business getting involved with this
>deal.

i want to see how they spin this.

dead serious

hate i gotta do it but when times get tough muthafucka ...

nigga im from the d. motherfuck the lakers.

i am so mad abt this. M.A.D.

welcome aboard.

fits nice.

You give up the best talent in the trade
You don't receive the 2nd best talent back (Bynum) ...
You don't receive the 3rd best talent in return (Gasol) ...
You don't receive the 4th best talent in return (Iggy) ...
You don't remove Hedo's money off you books ...
You get NO lottery picks ...
You get 6 picks in the 20's ...
You fired your coach at Dwight's urging ...
You fired your GM at Dwight's urging ...
You hire a 30yr old to replace Otis as GM ...

the FUCK are they doing?!?!?!?! What is going on down there? and HOW are the Lakers "always" in play for top talent? Just last yr they had Chris Paul?

And Dwight, is he to Shaq what Kobe was to MJ? Orlando, Superman logo, Lakers, Goofball, Grown midget mentality?

Yes, I'm mad and I embrace that reality!!!

Challenger-

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Welcome

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i mean shit. Los Doyers, USC, Lakeshow, Clips? plus watching the NFL too.

Thanks for rehabbing his image tho L.A


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doing all types of corny commercials and movie cameos.

also, he knows it'll be his team once Kobe leaves.

.

that's not correct.

it could happen big time ..most of the deals that the mavs made were for
one year, and marion is off the books after next season I believe....mavs will have the cap space..

plus howard really wanted to be a mav, and team up with williams when he thought williams was going to play for the mavs.


Howard did not sign an extension which is a huge slap in the face.. If a nigga has yet to sign an extension with the lakers....the fucking lakers...you know he is self-centered as fuck.

cuban gets the last laugh in this one..lakers have no future..everybody is old except howard.......

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must have been interesting this morning

should be a fun season.

D12 wants to learn how to lead and said he'll learn by following the best.

Oh and yeah, he did name Kobe, MVPauersexuals.

He was very articulate and impressive on the mic today. Very well thought out answers.

Overall a good presser. I still think dudes a clown but goddamn....D12!

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seeing a pic of what he was wearing while doing it just made it even more corny
i'm rooting for kobe to make this dudes life miserable
i want ice grillz galore

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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
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this is speculation but ive assumed all along hed be good come Oct 30



Dwight Howard was introduced at a press conference in Los Angeles on Friday night.
Dwight genuinely looked happy during the press conference and tried to have a good time by doing an impression of Kobe Bryant. The 26-year-old center shared that there's no timetable for his return and his health is "good." He also mentioned that it was up to the doctors to decide on his eventual return. Howard did not address the possibility of a contract extension and he ended his conference in appropriate fashion by saying, "thank you guys for putting up with me. It’s going to be better." But as for when Howard will be healthy enough to play after back surgery, at this point Christmas Day seems like a reasonable target date.

Have a funny feeling that Mark Cuban might get the last laugh. Lakers taking on Dwight without doing it through a sign and trade is just suicide.

Mark Cuban gave out mostly one year deals, so that he will have an immense amount of cap space after next season, so if the lakers are not potent next year, and the entire concept goes to shit, Dwight will jump ship.

Plus he cannot be trusted. Dude is an asshole, and is very, very self-centered. He's going to make Shaq look like Wayne Brady.....

Mike Brown, Howard, Kobe, Peace, and Gasol ..all on the same team?....That shit could turn into a personality clash, cluster fuck.


No hate. No mad-o.

not even just Dallas but I'll give you the whole field vs the Lakers.

There is no chance he's not a Laker next season.

you really want to bet that?.....you are nuts dude.

The fact that he went without a sign and trade is crazy in itself...I don't even think it is about money with this dude, because orlando was willing to give him tons, but he just didn't want to play in orlando anymore...


this could turn into a nightmare for the lakers, even if they do resign him..they will be capped like shit ....lotta huge ass contracts on the books for an old ass team ....

after next season, and not including howard, the laker's salary cap will be fucking 80 mil.....all on old ass players

man lakers are going to have to break the bank to keep the guy, and will not have any money to get younger at other positons.....

He's a Laker next year, any amount you want, just to reiterate.

lol

you mean after next season?

from Kobe/Gasol/Artest/Nash into the next era.

He's going nowhere.

I wish you were correct in your doomsday scenario but unfortunately you're not.

You don't have to like the Lakers (lord knows I don't, mostly because of Kobe but also now Dwight) but people should respect their gangster by now. They didn't get here being stupid & Cuban is a fly on the wall to them.

Dallas has zero to offer Dwight Howard in free agency: less money, lesser roster, inferior city, less marketing opportunities, etc.

Cuban crapped out on this one.

dude you are nuts.

Owners are going to feel the weight of the luxury tax, including the lakers, and the fact that the lakers hold howard's bird's right, they can go over the salary cap to sign howard......and I don't think that is a good thing because of the other 80 mil( their salary cap) that they are going to have to deal with


You do realize howard will be 27 this year, meaning he will just be 3 years away from 30 going into a big time long deal contract.....plus he is a player with back issues ..He is supposed to be be the future?

come the fuck on.

Bomb wake the fuck up. This entire situation has the potential to turn into a shit storm.

Cuban was the smartest owner this past summer ..why?...because he basically told williams to go fuck himself, which is why he didn't show up to meet him during his visit. Cuban wasn't going to pay 75 mil, and he let a lot of old ass players walk: terry, kidd .....and the mavs got younger with most of the contracts being one and done.

cuban is a fly on the wall?


mav's salary cap:

2012/2013: 59 mil
2013/2014: 24 mil

NIGGA PLEASE!

mavs will have so much loot to attack free agency and go after chris paul and other big free agents....lakers are limited to Dwight Howard . They are screwed for the next three years cap wise.


don't ride on this one, fam ...don't do it....

I don't wanna take your money but I will if you wanna put some up on it.

as of right now, is howard signed?

No!

so you cant say shit until the re-up happens.


you have no weight.

holler at me when it does happen

when it happens, you pay. If it doesn't, I do. You name the price and let's do that. I told you I'll give you the entire NBA too, I'll pay double if it's Dallas. Name a number.

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And if you're so certain about it, can I get some action on Bomb's side too?

better
because since bynum was the 2nd best center in the league the lakers had a huge advantage in the front court every night anyway
and only slightly improved that advantage with a defense for offense trade off
then he said something about the thunder still being better and the celts having to worry about the sixers now

iono if he's just trying not sound scared
but with statements like that and many analysts/tv heads STILL picking miami (or okc) it seems like the league doesn't see this as big of a deal as it is
niggas really believing that small ball don't need big men thing?
wasn't anthony davis just drafted #1?
lakers basically have a dream team for their starting 5 now
foh

Personally, I see it as an overrated move because of who Howard is. He's an under-achiever, and he comes from the same cloth that yielded vince carter and allen iverson ...the "you're no winner"cloth.


Plus the lakers are still very, very old.....an old nash, an old kobe, an old peace, and an old gasol ..an old bench in jamison.....Against the fire and speed of westbrook, durant,harden, and ibaka, plus they just added an extremely talented player in jones?..

Lakers are too old in key places.


I wish lakerland well, but there is no easy way out in this one....

dwight is an improvement on offense. bynum just had his career year and he averaged 18 points, dwight averages more year in and year out, more efficiently too.

start talking about averaging 18 on a team where Kobe shoots more than the two big men combined a lot of nights can you?

Dwight is not a strong offensive player & his foul shooting is yet another thing he bit from Shaq.

He's a better fit for the Lakers because he's a better all-around defender, rebounder & trashman plus he's a bona fide Top 3-5 player overall.

But Bynum long since eclipsed him in terms of post moves, touch & the other things you associate with being a 'first option' on that side of the ball (luckily for Dwight he doesn't have to be in LA, which is why they'll likely be a title team next year).

but who's a better offensive player at this point?

and we'll see how bynum does as a first option without pau and kobe around. he has a LOT of problems with the double team.

I'll take Bynum's post offense as the focal point over running it through HGH He-Man The Garbageman on that end.

I've never really been impressed by his "skill." he's just big enough and
"good enough" in an NBA that lacks solid 7 footers

Dwight destroyed Bynum in damn near all of their matchups:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=bynuman01&p2=howardw01

(smfh @ Dwight only averaging 8.6 FG a game in the Finals)

I think it's obvious that DH's development was hampered by SVG's
3-point-happy offense. it was a common occurrence to see Goomba, et al
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if y'all don't think Kobe gettin another ring you're fucking crazy! I'm out

let me get this straight.... he's gonna sign a 4 year, $87 mil contract with a Mavs team that, by the way, will have around 37 mil in guaranteed dough committed to 5 guys, leaving enough cap space to squeeze in D12's max deal but almost nothing else, and thats only if they rescind their qualifying offers to Beaubois and Collison and let them walk. so they'll be capped out with a roster of Howard, Dirk, Marion, Mayo, Jared Cunningham and Jae Crowder. that squad might not even make it out the first round, let alone compete for a title.

he's taking that over a 5 year, 118 mil deal to stay in sunny LA? where all the Hollywood endorsements are? where he's set up for success in the short term with Kobe, Nash, and Pau, and long term when everyone's contracts comes off the books in 2 years and Mitch will have cap space to build around him?

oh and to top it all off his fiance lives in LA, born and raised.

lol shit i'll call that bluff....that nigga aint going NOWHERE.

He could have made more than that in Florida, as well as Brooklyn....aint shit a shoe in with that dude..

The fact that it wasn't a sign and trade with one of the greatest franchises in sports should tell you that....

I don't think it is a about money with that dude, and dallas could easily pull a miami heat, by getting chris paul and howard to take less to play with each other ....not out of the question.


And again we are talking about Mark Cuban here who treats players like kings....who does not want to play for Mark Cuban?....only reason Williams signed with the nets is because he felt mark didnt really want him, and mark didn't.

Players don't get rid of mark...mark gets rid of players....terry,kidd, nash, tyson..


As long as Howard is not signed, you should be worried ....yall can't say shit until he signs. ..period.

If he does not sign, yall are literally fucked ....no other way about it...literally fucked, and I still think you guys are fucked even if he does sign

yall got 8 years out of shaq .....yall will not get that out of howard, and yall's entire team is old as fuck. plus yall got the biggest salary cap in the league ...

OKC is like damn near under the salary cap with a young ass championship squad.

FOH

>He could have made more than that in Florida, as well as
>Brooklyn....aint shit a shoe in with that dude..
>
>The fact that it wasn't a sign and trade with one of the
>greatest franchises in sports should tell you that....

what the hell are you talking about? it wasn't a sign and trade because he's not a free agent, and he's not gonna sign an extension NOW because thats not smart. 3 year extension with LA now or a 5 year deal with LA in 2013? which makes more sense financially?

>
>I don't think it is a about money with that dude, and dallas
>could easily pull a miami heat, by getting chris paul and
>howard to take less to play with each other ....not out of the
>question.

maybe you didn't read my post, Dallas will barely have enough money for one max deal, how can they afford both of them? unless CP3 and Dwight are willing to only make like 11 mil each next year, which obviously has no shot in hell of happening.

>As long as Howard is not signed, you should be worried
>....yall can't say shit until he signs. ..period.
>
>If he does not sign, yall are literally fucked ....no other
>way about it...literally fucked, and I still think you guys
>are fucked even if he does sign

lol you are a character.

>
>yall got 8 years out of shaq .....yall will not get that out
>of howard, and yall's entire team is old as fuck. plus yall
>got the biggest salary cap in the league ...

please go back and read post #357.

>
>OKC is like damn near under the salary cap with a young ass
>championship squad.
>
>FOH

OKC is actually over the cap right now and next year they'll be at 49 mil BEFORE having to sign Ibaka and Harden, to long term deals. if a team was willing to offer Eric Gordon a max deal you know Harden will get offered the same. if OKC keeps him they are over the cap, and who knows what some team will offer Ibaka, thunder will probably only get to keep one of them.

Damn you are not to bright, and you are delusional.

I just said that Howard did not do a sign and trade, so why are you following up with the same info?..learn to read.


And you are wrong about OKC, right now they are under the salary cap at 56 mil: http://hoopshype.com/salaries/oklahoma_city.htm

And they will be at 36 million after next season, with more than enough money to sign both harden and ibaka, but with the great pick up of perry jones, a player who can play PF and SF, team wise they are in great position.....

The lakers however are fucked with salaries at 97 mil for the upcoming
year, where old, old players are taking up most of the salaries

pau:32
nash:38
kobe: 34
peace:32
jamison: 36

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm
So, after next season, considering howard isn't sign by then, lakers salaries will be at 78 mil. Howard will command around 20-25 mil a year, so the lakers' cap will go back up to around100 mil, with no youth in sight until 2014/2015, where howard will be approaching the 30 year old mark with a back issue.

The Lakers have to play with old ass players for the next two seasons.

You have no idea how much you guys are gambling right now, because you guys have yet to get younger, and even if you do sign howard he will be an old guy for you in the next 3 years. .....so where is the youth movement? and how do you guys expect to win now with an old ass group of players?

Kobe talked about not turning into the pistons after they lost their championship to the bulls. They basically faded into oblivion, but they did that because they got old, which is what the lakers are doing
getting old.

You traded a 24 year old for a soon to be 27 year old, who will be 30 in three years, and you have to hang on to your old, old ass players for the next 2 seasons......

you niggas are dumb!.....

and your bench?...doo-doo still.


OKC is still going to run your old ass team out of the gym.....

>And you are wrong about OKC, right now they are under the
>salary cap at 56 mil:
>http://hoopshype.com/salaries/oklahoma_city.htm

that site is wrong, they didn't even include westbrook's contract.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/oklahoma-city-thunder-team-salary/

65 mil.

>
>And they will be at 36 million after next season,

49 mil actually, as you can see above.

>The lakers however are fucked with salaries at 97 mil for the
>upcoming
>year, where old, old players are taking up most of the
>salaries
>
>pau:32
>nash:38
>kobe: 34
>peace:32
>jamison: 36
>
>http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm
>So, after next season, considering howard isn't sign by then,
>lakers salaries will be at 78 mil. Howard will command around
>20-25 mil a year, so the lakers' cap will go back up to
>around100 mil, with no youth in sight until 2014/2015, where
>howard will be approaching the 30 year old mark with a back
>issue.

he'll be 28 in 2014 actually. and we'll have a gang of cap space in a loaded free agent class. lebron, wade, bosh, amare, melo, rudy gay can all opt out. dirk, granger, deng all free agents.

Listing a FA agent market that isn't even here yet..lol....you put down lebron and wade?..lol..possibly coming to the lakers?..lol

Delusional ...enjoy getting old as fuck and getting run over by youngins .


You remember the Ramon Sessions Deal ....Remember I told you guys you were stupid for getting him, and that he wouldn't be able to stop anyone, and that he was too small?

I said you guys would have been better off with CJ Watson....I know you remember

I know more about the destiny of your own team than you do...lol

chalk this one up as another fail for the lakers.

The Lakers would have lost with CJ Watson too. And the Lakers will always find a way to reload.

>
>Listing a FA agent market that isn't even here yet..lol....you
>put down lebron and wade?..lol..possibly coming to the
>lakers?..lol

and I listed the potential free agent market to let you know who could be available for the Lakers to sign to help build around a 28 year old Dwight Howard in 2014 when we have a ton of cap space.

that might have given up his Bird Rights in this era is Lebron & even that ended up being a sign-and-trade.

They're the Lakers. They don't kowtow or appease players. If he wants to get paid the most on the best roster possible he's staying there.

And Bynum ain't going anywhere neither, that dude ain't turning down a free meal let alone leaving money on the table.

If the Sixers wanna keep him, they will.
>
>lol shit i'll call that bluff....that nigga aint going
>NOWHERE.

anyone that has been following this cornball knows that LA was his #1 destination or a least one of his fav spots.
can't be mad at that, just an observation.

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and I would say nothing is certain with Howard
no one thought he would opt-in last trade deadline either
everything points to him resigning but he's still wishy-washy

"xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:
It seems like every time the Lakers lose in the playoffs, 70% of their fan base just assumes that they're suddenly going to get someone like Howard or Steve Nash. It just doesn't work that way."


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!!!!Awesome.

LMFAO

>"xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:
>It seems like every time the Lakers lose in the playoffs, 70%
>of their fan base just assumes that they're suddenly going to
>get someone like Howard or Steve Nash. It just doesn't work
>that way."
>
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!!!!Awesome.
>

>"xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:
>It seems like every time the Lakers lose in the playoffs, 70%
>of their fan base just assumes that they're suddenly going to
>get someone like Howard or Steve Nash. It just doesn't work
>that way."
>
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!!!!Awesome.
>


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...Is going to leave LA to go to 8th seed Brooklyn is beyond stupid.

tho.

he's doing a masterful job w/ that team thus far. already one of the sharpest execs in the L.

which is total bullshit when the Lakers just became the title favorite plus landed the best center in the league to bridge from Kobe to the next phase but it has been said.

To me I don't see anything that's going to really fundamentally change the outcome for them this year or in the forseeable future but I understand the trade from their perspective.

Iggy's the "vet" on that team at age 28, outside of him and old man Miller basically everybody on that team coming back is under 25. The Nuggets should easily be a top 4 seem in the west for the foreseeable future.

more than an entertaining team to watch run up and down the floor for a year or two. But "huge" upgrade is a bit much.

much better player than Afflalo on both ends and that team has plenty of room to grow.

This Laker team as constructed basically has a 2-year window and who knows what happens after that. Most likely we'll regroup and reload like normal but you never know.

Miller will be gone soon too.

Who is on this team to build around? Gallinari? McGee (who I like as far as price/upside but c'mon)?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/iguodala-nuggets-want-long-term-215759935--nba.html

they'll just give lip-service to that until at least after this season.

If they give Iggy a sizable re-up before this team even hits the floor, they've got a shot at actually losing this trade after all.

Iggy wants the check & still thinks he can be 'The Guy' but he's a #3/4 on a real contender.

He could have been money in Artest or Odom's spot in LA but you're a first-round exit if he's your best player.

a factor now or later.

Another 'tough out' first-round exit, *maybe* win a round & lose in the 2nd.

Basically the same trip they've been on for awhile.

The Lakers on the other hand got a Top 3 player in the game in his prime and the Sixers took a swing at having a real piece to build from.

So to me the Nuggs didn't 'win' amongst those four by any stretch, if people don't see from his Sixer years & from his Olympic play that Iggy is a perfect complimentary player but cannot be your best player if you wanna win, I don't know what to tell em.

as much as the Lakers or the Sixers, but for coming in at the tail end they were still able to add an All-Star/All-Defense-caliber player to their team without giving up a lot so it was definitely a win.

The overall winner may not really be determined for a while and will largely be based on how the health of the 2 centers works out.

The Sixers were gonna dump Iggy for Odumb's expiring last summer.

Even if Bynum fell apart they'll have moved on & shed salary like they'd wanted to anyway plus you get a chance to see what these kids can do.

From that alone it's already the best haul we've gotten when trading a 'star' in my lifetime as a Sixer fan (unless possibly you count Theo/McKie-for-Stack for a stretch).

As for the Lakers, it's the lynchpin to an incredible offseason while putting them back in the title chase plus having a future piece.

I can't really see how that fails there unless Dwight somehow crumples in a heap right after they give him the max deal.

Basically every team did well but Orlando but only two made what I'd consider 'power moves' with short/long-term upside.

or that they're title contenders as constituted. i was speaking moreso to ujiri's overall performance, which given the circumstances he inherited has been phenomenal.

he was under pressure from day 1, being forced to trade a top 10 player less than 2 years ago and dealing from a position of relatively little leverage. that team could very very easily be in the exact same place orlando is now, instead they can field a top 8 that's as good as anyone in the conference outside of LA and OKC.

he couldn't have played out the melo drama any more perfectly, i really liked the nene deal (tho i'm not quite where dream's @ with it -- http://yhoo.it/NU7YWy -- i am a big fan of vale's Tremendous Upside Potential and think he's in line for a change-of-scenery style breakout season) and i thought the way he was able to insinuate himself last-minute into this duhwight thing and nab one of those moving parts to significantly upgrade his roster was a pretty slick gambit.

i don't regard 'contending' as the sole criterion in evaluating front-office executives. the fact is unless you're fortunate / lucky enough to draft or inherit a true franchise player (which is an increasingly rare species in today's league), or you're the lakers who can go out and poach one from another team whenever the need arises, you kinda just have to 'make do' in a sense. masai's doing just that, and he's doing it pretty damn well.

reminds me a little of dumars' stellar first few years in detroit (you know, before he lost his mind and gave ben gordon and charlie villanueva $90M to not start)

>or you're the lakers who can go out and poach one
>from another team whenever the need arises

as a laker fan, i wouldn't either, my friend.

.

Because it's blatantly clear how poor this team is, as currently constructed.

and if they were, would it compare to the joy of this making the rockets' old fart spending spree seem wildly successful?

Enjoy the perpetual 6 seed and first round KO!

with that trash you gon be puttin on the floor in the coming years... hahaha talk about perpetual... You BETTER hope that clown ass nigga sign .. Lol

>with that trash you gon be puttin on the floor in the coming
>years... hahaha talk about perpetual... You BETTER hope that
>clown ass nigga sign .. Lol

you acting like you just know the shit gonna happen...

just don't run and hide when we bounce back..because we always have bounced back...

start thinking of your plea cops now...and take that LA out your screen name..lol.

and I get money in LA player..


>>with that trash you gon be puttin on the floor in the
>coming
>>years... hahaha talk about perpetual... You BETTER hope that
>>clown ass nigga sign .. Lol
>
>you acting like you just know the shit gonna happen...
>
>just don't run and hide when we bounce back..because we always
>have bounced back...
>
>start thinking of your plea cops now...and take that LA out
>your screen name..lol.

>and I get money in LA player..
>
>
>>>with that trash you gon be puttin on the floor in the
>>coming
>>>years... hahaha talk about perpetual... You BETTER hope
>that
>>>clown ass nigga sign .. Lol
>>
>>you acting like you just know the shit gonna happen...
>>
>>just don't run and hide when we bounce back..because we
>always
>>have bounced back...
>>
>>start thinking of your plea cops now...and take that LA out
>>your screen name..lol.
>

and come on man....you sayin you get money in LA is like saying you get rained on and you live in Seattle....lol. that's what we do here.

And I just scanned. Soooo many L's.