I don't do Arizona State hoops. Sorry "Fire Rises".

I do remember people talking about him playing like poop in the tournament.

And I don't remember any signifant Harden championing. I don't count somebody saying off the cuff, "Solid player." or "I like him." And I definitely don't remember anybody else still holding that torch after he got to the league.

Same with Klay. There were probably comments like, "He can shoot." "I like his size". But real generic. Nobody else said he'd be a star.