https://instagram.com/p/7X2yPiwc9a/?taken-by=alyivdaily

i understand why she deleted this post from her instagram page

my wife isn't even that far along and her belly is showing way more than that.

maybe muscle memory from all that time she had nassatall

but yeah, wish I had more hands to give this 4 thumbs down

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The OP didn't just randomly call someone's wife a BB. He called the woman of a profess pimp, who regularly calls women bitches, hoes and has spent a great deal of energy trying to glorify the pimping lifestyle, a name that he regularly uses for women in her position.

I am pretty sure (but not positive) I have heard him refer to Coco as such.


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Ma

SO all that you typed is irrelevant

d

if other folks a.) think your mom is a bitch or b.) refer to her as a bitch.

That's just how it works.


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Ma

it's about the shit is disrespectful, and shouldn't be allowed. period. i wouldn't allow it no matter who overheard it.

nobody is surprised at any dumb shit thegodcam says. trust.

d

you don't have strong moral grounds to object to people (a) thinking your mom is a bitch or (b) referring to your mom as a bitch.

If you can't abide with the disrespect, get at the source Ice T.


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Ma

you act like the names or nicknames we call people, especially family, can be appropriate outside of that circle or community.

if you refer to your mother as "mom" in public, can anyone else within earshot do the same without it being a problem for you?

if you call your wife or girlfriend "baby" "honey" "sexy" or any other petname in public, can anyone else within earshot do the same? no, and you know it.

You know he doesn't say "Hey Bottom Bitch, what's for dinner"?

He describes her as a bottom bitch because of what she does and the role she performs in his life.

If he describes her as his "bottom bitch", and she accepts that from her husband, how is either of them going to take offense at someone else calling her a BB?




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Ma

..the phrase "bottom bitch" is a position of power and term of endearment in the business of pimps & ho's. coco has openly embraced the term on more than one occasion.

no harm, no foul. we don't need a federal case about it.

let's move on.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

..thegodcam has been placed on timeout for previous infractions.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

>..thegodcam has been placed on timeout for previous
>infractions.
>
>
>

>..the phrase "bottom bitch" is a position of power and term
>of endearment in the business of pimps & ho's. coco has openly
>embraced the term on more than one occasion.
>
>no harm, no foul. we don't need a federal case about it.

I agree that this doesn't warrant a federal case, but there's a discussion worth having. Some women would argue that calling each other "bitch" is a term of endearment and a way of 'taking power' of the word away from men. That doesn't mean that it's socially acceptable to randomly call women "bitch" all willy nilly, does it?

..you know, the same phrase thrown about by thousands of hip hop fans (esp women)?

same effect.

*for the sake of clarity: i only weighed in on this dialogue because i was inboxed about it and more than one person requested that the post be edited/deleted.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

and this time, one of the people wasn't me.

if the community is making that request, it should be honored even if you're not offended by it. this aint a pimp/ho board; why must we honor that culture's language and idioms?

just saying..

d

>and this time, one of the people wasn't me.
>
>if the community is making that request, it should be honored
>even if you're not offended by it.

..while inbox request/comments/concerns are taken into consideration, we don't make decisions based on numbers. the community has been perfectly capable of engaging and participating in the dialogue. only a few people openly voiced their concern.

>this aint a pimp/ho board;
>why must we honor that culture's language and idioms?

"we" aren't honoring anything. one person made a poast and sparked a dialogue with others. you took issue with the language used, even though SHE hasn't. at some point a request was made to edit/delete the post and it was denied after further review.

ease up.



*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

I honestly dont see the need for it to be deleted, but still... I know how you do depending on the poster.

..now keep it movin'.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

>you don't have strong moral grounds to object to people (a)
>thinking your mom is a bitch or (b) referring to your mom as a
>bitch.
>
>If you can't abide with the disrespect, get at the source Ice
>T.

What does that have to do with Damali and her feelings on the matter?

Your argument is essentially that since he refers to his wife as his bottom bitch, we shouldn't have an issue with anyone else calling her his bottom bitch. If we follow that train to it's logical conclusion, the implication is that if her husband disrespects her that way, it's ok for everyone else to follow suit.

problem with it, nay, if they actively use the term to describe Coco, then why does Damali's opinion hold any more weight than thegodcam, Ice T or Coco?

>If we follow that train to it's logical conclusion, the >implication is that if her husband disrespects her that way, it's >ok for everyone else to follow suit.


The problem with this take is your use of the loaded term "disrespect". Ice T and Coco don't seem to think its a term of disrespect. So I am going to let them rock with it and not catch any moral outrage because someone else decides to use that same term to describe Coco.


Now you, me, Damali and probably everyone else knows there is a problem with a woman being regarded as a bottom bitch but that problem doesn't start with thegodcam. It starts with Ice T and Coco.

Also, I am personally not a fan of the moral hypocrisy of being morally outrage because folks aren't probably respecting the Pimp's self declared bottom bitch. Folks trying to have it both ways.


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Ma

to me. I can understand that.

But I can't get with the critique that we should not describe Ice T's wife as a bottom bitch because it's disrespectful to Ice T and Coco.


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Ma

You're essentially allowing his lack of respect for women, justify your own.


Not cool, bro.

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https://twitter.com/FINALLEVEL/status/45556254218780672

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Ma

Do I condone me personally referring to that man's wife as bitch? FUCK NO.

I don't play games with people's family. However, everyone is clearly different.

She looks great and I know Ice is having fun right now. *blasts UGK in this post*

but i read the title like "lmao" because of course a pimp's main girl is his bottom bitch. but i knew coming in here would be drama.

On a non-celebrity level, I may let someone's opinion of themselves or other's opinions of the them INFORM my opinion of them, but I'm going to come to my own conclusions. And I'm usually going to start with a base level of respect and then move accordingly based on what I see, hear and experience.

It's hard to cape for Coco though.. by playing into the pimp fantasy with apparently none of the repercussions, she's helping Ice-T promote and endorse a destructive lifestyle. There are women out there actually living the role that she "plays" and they're doing it for survival rather than for fame.

her self-respect is not for any of us to determine

to make an extreme example, if someone is stabbing themselves with a knife, is it ok to grab one and join in? i mean, they are doing it to themselves already, right?

d

"no, it's not hard at all. she still deserves respect...her self-respect is not for any of us to determine"

If it is not for any of us to determine her self-respect, then how are you going to decide FOR HER that "bottom bitch" is disrespectful?




>to make an extreme example, if someone is stabbing themselves
>with a knife, is it ok to grab one and join in? i mean, they
>are doing it to themselves already, right?

Yeah this example has nothing to do with anything related to how someone describes themselves versus taking an action. Very forced analogy.

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Ma

>"no, it's not hard at all. she still deserves respect...her
>self-respect is not for any of us to determine"
>
>If it is not for any of us to determine her self-respect, then
>how are you going to decide FOR HER that "bottom bitch" is
>disrespectful?

i'm not deciding for her...that shit is offensive TO ME...and to others who replied and inboxed the mods to delete/edit that shit....which they still haven't done.

my choice to respect what a woman is called (or not) is not removing their choice in the matter AT ALL. if you can't understand that, well...lol

d

if we are talking about a woman's right to respect and her right to choose how she's spoken to and what she's called, then everyone should respect that Coco has called herself Ice T's main bitch, his bottom bitch, his top notch hoe...she embraced that role and that "character" as the woman of a man who was known as a pimp. On the show they had together, he and she referred to herself and her position as "Ice T's wife/bottom bitch."

I don't see the harm at referring to her as such when she openly embraces it. If you aren't deciding for her, then why do you (and whoever else complained) get to decide that the thread should be changed from something she already said is okay with her.

This is not respecting Coco, it's about respecting those who have an issue with the term...because Coco is cool. It's ya'll who aren't, so why make this a "we should respect Coco" issue. She is being respected. Bottom bitch is the highest position one can have with a pimp.

>This is not respecting Coco, it's about respecting those who
>have an issue with the term...because Coco is cool. It's ya'll
>who aren't, so why make this a "we should respect Coco" issue.
>She is being respected. Bottom bitch is the highest position
>one can have with a pimp.


Different people find different terms respectful and disrespectful.
Even still, what I think Damali has failed to communicate is the strong correlation
between this and the N-word, nigga, if you will lol. Niggas call themselves niggas
constantly, but if a white dude does, all hell breaks loose. In this situation, yall niggas
are white dudes the way Damali sees it. I can't really be mad at that.

>Different people find different terms respectful and
>disrespectful.
>Even still, what I think Damali has failed to communicate is
>the strong correlation
>between this and the N-word, nigga, if you will lol. Niggas
>call themselves niggas
>constantly, but if a white dude does, all hell breaks loose.
>If this situation, yall niggas
>are white dudes the way Damali sees it. I can't really be mad
>at that.


She would have been much better off arguing that then analogies she has used in here.



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Ma

>>If this situation, yall niggas
>>are white dudes the way Damali sees it. I can't really be
>mad
>>at that.

thanks.

>She would have been much better off arguing that then
>analogies she has used in here.

"better off" in what way? i'm fine. cuz folks are arguing with me or saying i'm wrong, i'm supposed to be sad or mad? you know how long i been posting here? lol

believe me..i'm good :) i have no pressing need to be "right" or agreed with. i simply post to express what i'm thinking/feeling and engage in the occasional intellectual debate. keeps the brain sharp :).

d

Folks getting upset over a post title when Coco clearly accepts and endorses that term.

I don't seen them picketing outside of record labels when albums are littered with the word bitch, nigga, or sometimes both together.

Internet activist. Social justice warriors. The pick and choose when I'm upset types.

Btw +1 for your reply. Shit was on point and there is really nothing else to say in this thread. Thank you.

http://tinyurl.com/o5gctyq

>This is not respecting Coco, it's about respecting those who
>have an issue with the term...because Coco is cool. It's ya'll
>who aren't, so why make this a "we should respect Coco" issue.

the convo went there in the midst of the back and forth, but in a general sense, i don't appreciate logging into okp and seeing a woman being referred to as a bitch in the subject line, regardless of who it is. period. mods and/or anyone else don't have to agree but i still get to express my objection/aversion to it.

>She is being respected. Bottom bitch is the highest position
>one can have with a pimp.

that's nice....but her and her pimp don't post on these boards and aren't a part of this community.

d

You know the post where it was okay for you to call your mom and bitch but not someone else?

Being a bit brand new to now argue that the use of term in itself is offensive to you.


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Ma

he loves her regardless of what the world might think

same with Bow Wow & Erica Mena, I dont even know if that's a thing still. but he proposed marriage so it's no one's place to speak on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHaW1kl3oNg

This shit just went up a notch

Because the poster called the pimps wife what I'm sure he's called her before and she accepted it.

This post title hurts my self important feelings.

OUTRAGE!!!!

Damali, you are a fucking saint.
*walks right back out*

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.
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"Love your haters until they can love themselves and then love them further." ~ J. Case

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtWNjqhY6gU



"Get ready..for your blessing..."

Shit can't be that serious.

Which is fucking insane if you ask me.

Just cause you can't handle some shit and don't like it, doesn't mean you have to shield me from it.

We're all pretty much adults here, if something bothers you keep it moving. I don't need anyone to police certain words from me.

You're really not even allowed to have fun on the internet anymore.

it will turn into clownage of the poster anyway.

I agree that some things cross a line but this, naaah, this ain't it.

or post titles changed. Back in the day we'd just argue the shit out in the post. If I don't like some shit that is posted I'll say that shit in the post... because ya know dialogue.
Now a post just has to offend a certain mods sensibilities and it comes down.
It's killing this place.
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Its like...y'all won the war. This place is sterilized and the wild niggas know better now...but y'all want complete annihilation of anything that offends your sensibilities.

And y'all not even realizing y'all don't want this

I dont want to post on a full of damalis and joemocorns any more than I want to be on a board full of ambient1s and deejborams or John fortes and buddy gilapagos. Okp had the perfect mixture of different types of people, and that's what makes it entertaining.

I'm on thecoli now and it ain't the same. A bunch of niggas arguing about stupid shit but they're all pretty much saying the same thing....there's no one to rock the boat. No women...just a bunch of niggas saying middle school shit they think is clever.

It's hard to be an all american band leader on a top network show and have a message board full of "live niggas" show up when people Google your name. Not worth it.

The moderation has always been kinda friend based and arbitrary here but now it's actually trying to slow traffic and drive posters away, good and bad. My guess is the change in direction is from "on high" rather that an individual mod making bad calls individually over and over again.
Honestly, there were times when there was way too many live niggas and it ruined shit but now it has swung too far in the other direction.
I prefer to boxing shit out than just deleting shit...
If I don't feel like boxing it out I just don't click it.
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Here is the thing. If this post referred to FLOTUS as a BB not only would it have self corrected with posters putting the OP in their place but it would have made sense for mods to shut down.

Some things need to be policed.


Given the people involved, it's just not that type of outrage.



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Ma

The Fallon angle, that it. It would be like blaming Zuckerberg for what gets posted on Facebook, or blaming the Twitter founders for all of the ratchet-ness there.

My theory is that shit costs quite a few $$$ for the hosting & bandwidth, and taking things down a notch (less posters, less posts, less bandwidth) is good for the bottom line.

He owns it and it's associated with him. That's enough.
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or twitter.

Also this site is more like reddit than those sites and reddit owners, management get blasted all the time for the terrible content on their site. Just saying.

I can think of little upside for him at this point to host the site and plenty of downside.


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Ma

or twitter.

Also this site is more like reddit than those sites and reddit owners, management get blasted all the time for the terrible content on their site. Just saying.

I can think of little upside for him at this point to host the site and plenty of downside.


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Ma

I'd rather box it out than delete it. Honestly, it's better for the boards when people post dumb shit and get their ass handed to them. I think that makes people think twice about what they post and why.
Disappearing some shit, unless it's way out there, doesn't do that.

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shit is turning into scans daily.

pretty soon we'll have to have trigger warnings.

that a pregnant woman shouldn't pose in a thong.

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