>so, my understanding from this is that you think hip-hop's/
>black folks "obessesion" w/ being cool prevents them from
>making funky, good music. that it's hindering the art form?

I didn't get that from the post, although you can take it there.

>not imo. james wore suits and a conk. alotta 70's funk
>artists dressed like hustlers, the coolest shit they could
>find at the time. 80's artists dressed like hustlers. 90's
>artists dressed like hustlers.
>
>cool is about being free.

Cool is about being free, yet most of the coolest people you can mention - all dress the same, and have the same aesthetic?

You're free to wear the uniform?

How is that freedom?

>cool is about being so cold, that all the shit the man put
>on you, "he can't put no thing on me."

>the thing is, you have a different idea of cool. just like
>george had a different idea of cool. and your (and his) idea
>of cool is no more valid than run dmc's. y'all are the anti
>cool: y'all idea seems to be whiling out.

Afkap's point was that George not only rejected 1 type of cool, but cool in general. Even though much to his chagrin, what he did then became yet another niche of cool.

You've got the cool kids in highschool, and then you've got the anti-elites. - Both are defined in terms of cool. You are, or you're not.

I think Afkap wants to reject that way of thinking entirely.

Irrespective of what that does to the creation and quality of the music.

I didn't get the sense that Afkap was lamenting the state of black music because everyone was trying to fit into this notion of cool - and in order for black music to get better - we must reject that specific type of cool (in this case hip hop, to a lesser extent - the urban man, but not the urbane)

I think this cool thing is a bigger issue than that.

>so your whole notion that cats are scared of breaking their
>cool, i think that shit is proposterous. it's
>2muthafucking005. if you can't roll w/ drug dealers and rock
>cats, it's prolly due to your own insecurity. (not you afkap
>personally, in general). not due to the need to keep it
>real.

You and your friends are anomalies.

I'd be more convinced of your point, if you could tell me the whole hood showed up to see Coldplay. Cats surprised that 37th street was in the house.

It's careful to no get crossed up in race and marketing though, cause a lot of these things intertwine and exist in diff. dimensions.

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