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1836, RE: allow me to retort
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Dec-21-04 10:27 AM
edit - note, I don't think simpin on wax is indicative of needing a female audience, I think it cuts across any genre/artist. underground cats need pussy too. internet mc's may be somewhat exmpt, I don't know tho.



>>who is popular, that doesn't have a significant female
>>fanbase?
>>
>>
>>or does that not prove the point?
>
>Who is popular that doesn't have a significant WHITE
>fanbase?

true, but thats also a numbers thing

>
>Whenever you talk about "who defines a genre", you gotta
>think about it from the hip hop perspective.
I think defines a genere is a horrible point, "legitimize" may be the word.


>
>There are no slow burners in hip hop music.
>You either go big your first week, or you go home.
>
>So the question is going to become, who are the tastemakers
>and who are the early adopters, that send signals to the
>record companies to keep pushing the record.

but first you gotta get signed. now in terms of , "who's cool when their video hits mtv", is one thing, but who gets to that point in the thing.

>
>Is it white kids?
>Is it black females?
>
>Or is it really that same ol core audience, the block, the
>streets - young black and latino males that live in the city
>that are generally closest to the artists themselves?
>
>AT the end of the day, women and white kids buy lots of
>records.
>
>The questions are, 1) when do they buy it, (later rather
>than sooner), and 2) and why do they buy it? (because young
>black men define cool)
>


the wall.

the thing between the artists who sell 200-500k. and the guys who go plat. double plat. etc.

even between the cats rapping in their basement and that guy whos signed but will never drop an album

Is there anybody who breaks the wall from one level to the next without adding significant female numbers to their fanbase first?

cuz you gotta get cats to go to your show right? or play your songs loud so people can hear em.


whenever new artists come out, or a new subgenre gets hot, you gotta put asses on the dancefloor. female asses.

you might not be allowed slow burn in terms of sales, but when cats go from underground to mainstream, it definitely happens.


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from a 100k out the trunk to plat in the stores, or some version of that.


hell, even phonte and nicolay are rappin for the bitches, lol.





>Ultimately, this question is decided on what part of the
>economic process you want to focus on.
>
>Do we start at the beginning, or do we focus on who went
>platinum and why?

how many cats you know keep that dream going if they can't get at least one woman to think they can do it?

some, but few.


>
>one
>k. orr

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