154968, Eric B goin in on Marley Marl *swipe* Posted by ABROCK33, Thu Apr-05-12 01:12 PM
I havnt heard anything good about Marley from any of the pioneers dude seems like a crud by all the accounts Ive read stealing credit and such
Biz said it Kane said it Shan said it Masta Ace wouldnt let him
this dude seems scandalous
http://allhiphop.com/2008/02/29/class-of-88-paid-in-full/
AllHipHop.com: I was speaking to Marley about three weeks ago and I asked him to give me some commentary about the two records he produced on Paid In Full so I can combine it with your words for the track by track layout. This is some of what he had to say:
Those two songs I did were their first two records. Let me make that clear. My Melody was Rakims first recording with Eric B. When the first MC didnt show up, which was Freddie Foxx; we gave Eric B. another shot to get someone else in the studio. He was like I know my boy from Long Island will come out here, so give me another shot. So I gave him another shot and he came. Just think if Foxx would have showed up the first day. There probably would have never been a Eric B. and Rakim. Thats crazy.
Eric B.: Thats not true. First of all lets go back. Marlon was the engineer of the session, not the producer of the session. If he produced on the record it would have said he produced and he would have got publishing. Am I correct?
AllHipHop.com: Correct.
Eric B.: Marlon has not gotten a dollar in publishing and never has taken us to court to get publishing and he is not the producer. What happened was Marlon was the engineer. Let me give you how the whole thing started. When I went to Long Island I met a guy named Alvin Toney. Alvin took me around and I was working for WBLS at the time I was their mobile DJ and I used to play at all their mobile events. I met Alvin all the way in Wyandanch Long Island, and hes like We got MCs out here and this and that, I got my man Freddie Foxx. We went to Freddie Foxxs house and he wasnt home. He was like I got another dude, he nice too!” “He has a totally different style than Foxx; he got an aggressive style. “This dude got a smooth laid back style.” So Alvin takes me to Rakim’s house and we start talking.
So I meet Rakims brother Stevie Blass. Stevie was working at a plant that was making bootleg records. It was a backdoor pressing plant so he had every record there was. So I chose some records and I was cutting it in the basement. Ill never forget this. Rakim was down there drinking beer. I put the beat on and I had to put a bass line on it. So I took Fonda Reas Over Like A Fat Rat and said this is the bass line Im going to use for this record. Rakim spit the beer all over the wall and thought it was the funniest sh*t in the world. I told Rakim, just like you laughing now you going to be laughing all the way to the bank and be a millionaire one day because of this record.
I took the records to Marley Marls house in Queensbridge and paid Marley Marl to be the engineer. Marley got paid. Thats why hes not a producer, thats why he is not getting publishing. I brought the music. I just couldnt work the equipment because thats not what I did. If you look on the record, it says mixed by Marley Marl and MC Shan. The reason for that is, Marlon used to tell me that Rakim was wack. Yo E. this guy is rhyming too slow and hes giving me a headache. He would do all these different excuses. Shan was in the house. The record company agreed to put out My Melody but we needed a mix. Me and Shan sat there the whole time trying to figure out a mix ourselves. If you listen to the record, it has highs and lows. There were great sounding records at the time, but I listen to stuff on the record now and it sends chills through me like dam how did we deliver this? Me and Shan did all the mixes because Marley Marl didnt want to do them because Rakim was rhyming too slow and he was Marley a headache.
AllHipHop.com: Okay, here is what Marley said in regards to Shan engineering the session:
Whats ironic about those two sessions was MC Shan was an assistant engineer or an apprentice at my studio. So I let Shan record Rakims vocals for those songs.
Eric B.: Thats not true. Them dudes were at a different place in their life and they were getting high and I dont get high so I remember everything. I am so sick of all these lies that these dudes tell. They continue to perpetuate these lies and its ridiculous. Shan wasnt trying to get his feet wet with the engineering. Shan was down there with me and he was like You my man, lets try to see if we can work these records. Thats how it came about. I know what it is. Marley cant tell you where he got the records from. I brought the records with me, I knew what I wanted. That’s why he’s not a producer and he don’t get a publishing.
AllHipHop.com: In regards to making My Melody this is what he had to say.
For My Melody me and Eric we were Rising To The Top lovers. He was like Why dont you replay Rising To The Top? So I was like bet, so I just chopped up a beat off the head.
Eric B.: Dude, thats not true. My Melody was a song Rakim already had and all the other melodies came from stuff Rakims brother Stevie Blass. Thats another lie. Rakim already did a record called My Melody, and he had rhymed for like a half an hour on the tape. Thats the short version you hear on the album. Rakim had a record he had written a long time ago, and Stevie had played the music and when me and Marlon came back in we did the song over. Just like the movie Paid In Full, they always talk about that Alpo always played Paid In Full. They did not play Paid In Full. They played Eric B. Is President. Paid In Full hadnt come out at that time when Alpo was doing that stuff they were doing. Its a lot of inconsistencies.
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